(February 21, 2017 at 12:34 am)paulpablo Wrote: So from what I can tell the proof is that RobertE (Who's a banned troll) said Bella sent a private message to him about the BNP and then Bella said it was a misunderstanding followed by saying she definitely doesn't support the BNP.

In my opinion you'd have to be blind to not thing Bella leans heavily right wing but I don't see conclusive evidence that she supports the BNP.

Not evidence that would stand up in court anyway, it's basically heresay and loosely connecting the dots to where her saying she doesn't support the BNP is her admitting she was talking about British politics and therefore she definitely supports the BNP which seems like faulty logic at least to me.

Anyway, I'm not Bella's representative and it's a small issue for me to give a fuck about.

The KKK wore hoods for a reason...

RobertE made blatantly racist statements (Bella was always there to provide a kudos btw) and when even HE balks at some of the groups you support, something ain't kosher. Bella had no choice to backpedal, heck most modern white supremacist groups won't come out and proclaim they are racist, which is why they have rebranded themselves as "alt-right" for example.

Then there are her other comments.

(January 25, 2016 at 11:42 am)Bella Morte Wrote: There's a high amount of racism within black communities. Just beat the shit out of anyone who is racist to you or your mum for that matter and that'll teach them next time.

(April 22, 2016 at 1:07 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: White liberals these days are essentially black supremacists, or at least extremely close to it. It's possible to think another race is superior than yourself.

Stupid, but possible.

But let's not pretend as if you haven't been talking greasy yourself, after all you've stated yourself that you'd have no problems owning slaves...

(February 21, 2017 at 1:31 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(February 21, 2017 at 12:34 am)paulpablo Wrote: So from what I can tell the proof is that RobertE (Who's a banned troll) said Bella sent a private message to him about the BNP and then Bella said it was a misunderstanding followed by saying she definitely doesn't support the BNP.

In my opinion you'd have to be blind to not thing Bella leans heavily right wing but I don't see conclusive evidence that she supports the BNP.

Not evidence that would stand up in court anyway, it's basically heresay and loosely connecting the dots to where her saying she doesn't support the BNP is her admitting she was talking about British politics and therefore she definitely supports the BNP which seems like faulty logic at least to me.

Anyway, I'm not Bella's representative and it's a small issue for me to give a fuck about.

The KKK wore hoods for a reason...

RobertE made blatantly racist statements (Bella was always there to provide a kudos btw) and when even HE balks at some of the groups you support, something ain't kosher. Bella had no choice to backpedal, heck most modern white supremacist groups won't come out and proclaim they are racist, which is why they have rebranded themselves as "alt-right" for example.

Then there are her other comments.

(January 25, 2016 at 11:42 am)Bella Morte Wrote: There's a high amount of racism within black communities. Just beat the shit out of anyone who is racist to you or your mum for that matter and that'll teach them next time.

(April 22, 2016 at 1:07 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: White liberals these days are essentially black supremacists, or at least extremely close to it. It's possible to think another race is superior than yourself.

Stupid, but possible.

But let's not pretend as if you haven't been talking greasy yourself, after all you've stated yourself that you'd have no problems owning slaves...

We went over this so you're either forgetful or dishonest.

we went over what?

(February 21, 2017 at 1:54 am)Huggy74 Wrote: we went over what?

We went over the context of me saying I'd be ok owning slaves and it wasn't a controversial thing to say in the context it was put in.

Also me saying it's justified for cops to beat up black people.  Also not controversial in the context I put it in.

(February 21, 2017 at 1:58 am)paulpablo Wrote:

(February 21, 2017 at 1:54 am)Huggy74 Wrote: we went over what?

We went over the context of me saying I'd be ok owning slaves and it wasn't a controversial thing to say in the context it was put in.

Also me saying it's justified for cops to beat up black people.  Also not controversial in the context I put it in.

Look just because we discussed something you said before doesn't negate the fact that you said it. Also I explained why your context for owning slaves was bullcrap.

(February 21, 2017 at 2:13 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(February 21, 2017 at 1:58 am)paulpablo Wrote: We went over the context of me saying I'd be ok owning slaves and it wasn't a controversial thing to say in the context it was put in.

Also me saying it's justified for cops to beat up black people.  Also not controversial in the context I put it in.

Look just because we discussed something you said before doesn't negate the fact that you said it. Also I explained why your context for owning slaves was bullcrap.

Nope.  But I hope people believe you.

I take your out of context comment from me that I said 4 years ago and raise you with something I said fairly recently.

I said cops are justified in beating up black people.  Does that sound greasy aswell?

(February 21, 2017 at 2:16 am)paulpablo Wrote:

(February 21, 2017 at 2:13 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Look just because we discussed something you said before doesn't negate the fact that you said it. Also I explained why your context for owning slaves was bullcrap.

Nope.  But I hope people believe you.

I take your out of context comment from me that I said 4 years ago and raise you with something I said fairly recently.

I said cops are justified in beating up black people.  Does that sound greasy aswell?

You seriously going to complain about context while you have a whole slew of out of context quotes in your sig?

There is no context where chattel slavery is ok, period.

Yep, it sounds extra greasy, go ahead and explain the context...

(February 21, 2017 at 2:28 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(February 21, 2017 at 2:16 am)paulpablo Wrote: Nope.  But I hope people believe you.

I take your out of context comment from me that I said 4 years ago and raise you with something I said fairly recently.

I said cops are justified in beating up black people.  Does that sound greasy aswell?

You seriously going to complain about context while you have a whole slew of out of context quotes in your sig?

There is no context where chattel slavery is ok, period.

Yep, it sounds extra greasy, go ahead and explain the context...

I explained the context last time but it went over your head. 

I'm telling you that in both situations there was no controversy in what I was saying.  But because I don't think you'll be able to comprehend it would be a waste of time to explain to you.
The second example is more complex than the first, so if you can't understand the first you wouldn't understand the second.

(February 20, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I'm side eyeing you right now Thump...

It's all good, Hugs, ain't everyone going to agree with me all the time. Paul's certainly one of those folks, no skin off'n my ass.

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(February 21, 2017 at 12:01 am)paulpablo Wrote: So the conclusive proof that we have is based on what RobertE said and what Bella didn't say.

When you link the post where I call it "conclusive proof", you might have a point. Until then, you're simply being your usual, obtuse self ... and I'm having my usual laugh at you trying to rile me.

(February 21, 2017 at 2:40 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(February 20, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I'm side eyeing you right now Thump...

It's all good, Hugs, ain't everyone going to agree with me all the time.

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(February 21, 2017 at 12:01 am)paulpablo Wrote: So the conclusive proof that we have is based on what RobertE said and what Bella didn't say.

When you link the post where I call it "conclusive proof", you might have a point. Until then, you're simply being your usual, obtuse self ... and I'm having my usual laugh at you trying to rile me.

Thump I'm not trying to rile you.

You didn't say it was conclusive proof so admittedly I slightly misspoke about the words you used.

What you said was..

Quote:Immediately after I posted a rebuttal to her claim that she'd never mentioned BNP showing conclusively that she had, she posted in CIJS that she was tired of all this crap ... and that's the last I read of her.

"Ragequit" is, to be fair, probably inaccurate. Perhaps "shamequit" is a better fit.

conclusively means in a decisive way in effect proving the case.

Your rebuttal (as far as I'm aware and I'm genuinely saying I could be totally wrong about this) was the post that RobertE made.

So in my opinion that doesn't constitute conclusive evidence that Bella had mentioned the BNP to RobertE.  It just shows that he said she did.  Conclusive would be if she had posted in in public.

Unless there's some other post I'm not aware of.

To put it simply I don't see it as conclusive that Bella did send something to RobertE if it's purely based on what RobertE is saying.