abaris Wrote:You know, maybe, as I said, it's not worth the effort. You obviously like to pound your chest and reinsure yourself that your dick is still in place. You're an adult, I assume, so one can expect an adult to do his own research instead of stomping his feet an demanding evidence that's readily available to someone doing a simple google.

Fine. What should I google for?

Quote:I for one am not in the business of changing anyone's mind, if they show no sign of wanting to change their mind. It's a waste of time, plain and simple. I only take persons like that for what they are. Suffice to say, my respect is very limited.

I'm very much open to have my mind changed. You just have to be reasonable or at least a bit convincing and actually back everything with evidence.

(February 26, 2017 at 10:13 am)pool the great Wrote: Fine. What should I google for?

Women's rights, women's reproductive rights. Something like that. There are constantly new studies coming out. Concerning the US as well as Europe. I'm sure you find your way.

Mathilda Wrote:Exactly. I haven't debated anything with him so it's not like I have had a chance to be proved wrong on anything.

That's a clever way of avoiding having yourself proven wrong.

Quote:Nor do I have any interest in debating with Pool.

Then why are you here? Nobody asked for your assessment of my personality, not that it is in any form relevant to the discussion but you're not making a whole lot of sense now.

Quote:I haven't used any exclamation marks or expressed any so called 'butthurt'. I am not offended.

You came all the way over here to tell me you're not butthurt. Gotcha.

Quote:These are just ways in which Pool can try to convince himself as to why my judgement must be wrong.

No, no. You're a simple genius. I'm hoping to learn more about myself from you. Om nama shivaya.

Quote:But based solely on what I have seen of Pool's obsession with creating misogynistic threads, none of which I participate in, I am left with the conclusion that he must be a misogynistic cunt.

Still leaves the question as to why you are here then open. Not that anybody cares but you're just flaming me for no reason trying to rile me up haha.

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(February 26, 2017 at 10:16 am)abaris Wrote:

(February 26, 2017 at 10:13 am)pool the great Wrote: Fine. What should I google for?

Women's rights, women's reproductive rights. Something like that. There are constantly new studies coming out. Concerning the US as well as Europe. I'm sure you find your way.

That's pretty vague though and I don't think it'll provide much of any answer to my question either. My original question was "Can third wave feminists back any of their claims with evidence?" then I changed it to "Can feminists back any of their claims with evidence?" to give LP a hand in proving me wrong. Alas, he is nowhere to be found.

(February 26, 2017 at 10:18 am)pool the great Wrote: Still leaves the question as to why you are here then open.

I saw the thread about Milo and that it was 11 pages long. So I jumped to the last page to catch up and saw that it had been derailed to be another one of your misogynistic threads. So I expressed an opinion and left.

You obviously have some issues concerning women. I do not know what they are. Someone called me obnoxious once. He was a cunt. But he was also correct. I eventually sorted out my issues and stopped being deliberately obnoxious.

(February 26, 2017 at 10:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: I saw the thread about Milo and that it was 11 pages long.

What do you expect a thread about trou du cul extraordinaire to turn into? There's only so many things to discuss about Milo. Either it's racism, bigotry or misgynism.

(February 26, 2017 at 10:18 am)pool the great Wrote:

Mathilda Wrote:Exactly.  I haven't debated anything with him so it's not like I have had a chance to be proved wrong on anything.

That's a clever way of avoiding having yourself proven wrong.

Quote:Nor do I have any interest in debating with Pool.

Then why are you here? Nobody asked for your assessment of my personality, not that it is in any form relevant to the discussion but you're not making a whole lot of sense now.

Quote:I haven't used any exclamation marks or expressed any so called 'butthurt'. I am not offended.

You came all the way over here to tell me you're not butthurt. Gotcha.

Quote:These are just ways in which Pool can try to convince himself as to why my judgement must be wrong.

No, no. You're a simple genius. I'm hoping to learn more about myself from you. Om nama shivaya.

Quote:But based solely on what I have seen of Pool's obsession with creating misogynistic threads, none of which I participate in, I am left with the conclusion that he must be a misogynistic cunt.

Still leaves the question as to why you are here then open. Not that anybody cares but you're just flaming me for no reason trying to rile me up haha.

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(February 26, 2017 at 10:16 am)abaris Wrote: Women's rights, women's reproductive rights. Something like that. There are constantly new studies coming out. Concerning the US as well as Europe. I'm sure you find your way.

That's pretty vague though and I don't think it'll provide much of any answer to my question either. My original question was "Can third wave feminists back any of their claims with evidence?" then I changed it to "Can feminists back any of their claims with evidence?" to give LP a hand in proving me wrong. Alas, he is nowhere to be found.

Already did.. you are just shitposting. Run little boy.

LastPoet Wrote:Already did.. you are just shitposting. Run little boy.

Wage gap was never proven by any feminist with an actual evidence but it was disproved nevertheless. What you mean is called an earnings gap and it has no proven correlation with gender discrimination. Hahaha

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Mathilda Wrote:I saw the thread about Milo and that it was 11 pages long. So I jumped to the last page to catch up and saw that it had been derailed to be

You can thank LastPoet for derailing this thread. I'm keeping it on topic by discussing Milo and his views about feminism.

Quote:another one of your misogynistic threads.

You're going to have to explain what you mean by that one day or the other.

Quote:So I expressed an opinion and left.

You called me a cunt and left thereby adding in to the derailing of this thread.

Quote:You obviously have some issues concerning women.

Thanks for telling me what issues I have. Please perform a detailed diagnosis and send me a report.
Sarcasm aside, I have a problem with feminism; not women, the two are not synonymous.

Quote: I do not know what they are.

I have faith in your mind reading abilities.

Quote:Someone called me obnoxious once.

lol

Quote:He was a cunt.

I'm starting to wonder whether you're an Aussie

Quote:But he was also correct

Yikes.

Quote: I eventually sorted out my issues and stopped being deliberately obnoxious.

Good for you.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: Yes it is. I already gave my reason.

Which "reasoning" is vapid. You compared a crime to a legal act.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: Didn't say it wasn't.

One which you'd deny to women, but not men. Got it.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote:

Quote:Would you assent to your government cutting off your balls because your nation's birthrate is sky-high?

No, I wouldn't.

Gee, I wonder why you think nothing of letting the government in on a woman's medical decision, but not a man's.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: Of course I have to. There are strict limits to bodily autonomy. I cannot use my bodily autonomy to hurt or cause distress to someone or something. As a matter of fact I cannot even use bodily autonomy to cause harm/kill myself, it is either considered illegal or mentally unstable.

You can and do use your bodily autonomy to distress things all the time. It's illegal to assault a person. It's also illegal to take a person and hold their body captive to your whim for nine months at a time.

You are making my point for me; you value a fetus, who legally is not a person, over a living woman. How is this not misogynist?

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: You're wrong but I would've still liked to see your answer to that.

Read the above and get back to me.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: No, it's not. You hitting someone with your body is you exercising bodily autonomy but your government has given you strict instructions about what you can or cannot do with your own body.

You've already written that you would deny the government the power to forcibly conduct a medical procedure on you, yet you have no problem with the government forcing not just a medical procedure, but a lifetime of motherhood, on a woman. Somehow you don't mind that.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not allowed to use your bodily autonomy to cause harm or distress to someone or something and this largely depends on different countries and their laws.

Then kindly keep your idiotic, backward opinions in your shithole of a country. You have no problem with a fetus using its bodily autonomy to siphon energy and nutrients from a woman's body. Probably because it's a woman who is being treated in such a manner, amirite?

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: Blindly following laws are a bit idiotic. Always question everything and try to find the reasons as to why. Being a good boy that yells "Yes sir!" will get you points in your classroom but in the real world you'll get ridiculed.

... says the idiot who just got done talking about how the law doesn't permit bodily autonomy to mean assault (as if that's germane to a medical conversation anyway).

The decision, by the way, says that woman can have abortions, not that women must. It is not an imperative.

Also, I got a good laugh at you, a college kid who hasn't had to pay his own way in the world, telling me about how the real world works. This is how uninsightful you are, Pool.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: I am owning it.

No, you're not. You're denying the obvious.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: Who's whining? Me myself have already repeated countless times I'm against feminism in this very own thread alone.

That wasn't the whining I was referencing. You're not terribly smart, are you?

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: Nope. I'm a nice person and I don't have to prove it to you.

That's a good thing, because after all the shitty things you've written, I don't think you could demonstrate goodness to many folks here.

(February 26, 2017 at 1:54 am)pool the great Wrote: I striked it out because I made a mistake while typing it out but please, you continue telling me what I believe. Straw manning seems the only way you can display yourself as being in the right, I don't blame you.

The strike-out doesn't occur in the original post, which happened at 12:30 pm by the forum clock. It only appears in a post timed 9:37 pm by the same clock.

It also bears note that the essence of the strike means that you could in certain instances support endangering the life of the mother in your stance against abortion. I'm unsure how this makes you less misogynist ... but no doubt you've concocted more horseshit to convince yourself of your own rectitude.

Also, I don't think you know what straw-manning is. I'd suggest learning about it before tossing it around. You only look dumber (and that's quite the trick!) when you use words you obviously don't understand. It's not telling someone what they believe. It's constructing an argument they haven't made, and then treating the negation of that constructed argument as the negation of their actual argument.

That hasn't happened here, and I ain't telling you what you believe. I'm feeding back to you the impression that your posts leave. That impression is that you think women are lesser beings who can't even be trusted with the responsibility to decide where to sit in a cinema. If that's not the message you want to get across, perhaps you should stop propagating it?

This is not a safe-zone, and your opinions do not get a free pass from critique. Don't like it? Tough shit.

I gradually lost any respect that I had for Milo but this probably won't be the end of him yet.

If only you became more desensitized to provacatuers who are natural frauds.

If Yabbadopolis figured he could cash out on switching political affiliations, he would in a heartbeat. I remember his pivot from "Gamers are unfuckable pasty losers" to "Gamers are being shafted by the press and they're relatable!" It confirmed his complete disingenuous interest in "things that matter" for many people.

I grant that everyone, in some aspect, has degrees of interest and disinterest in what others care about and cater to their feelings for less than noble reasons. However, Yiannaridiculous always struck me as someone who dialed that mercenary impulse to 11.