I am sure you have heard some arguments for theism, maybe theists are convinced that they fulfill a burden of proof. 

Despite the problems these arguments may have, which one stands out the most to you?

I commonly hear atheists claim that the teleological argument, as terrible as it may be, is the most convincing of all theist arguments.

I personally think the Kalam Cosmological Argument is the #1.

Never heard one worth a shit.

They are only convincing if you decide to remain ignorant.

(March 12, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Never heard one worth a shit.

Doesn't really confront the question.

Actually, it does.

Anything that proceeds from "there is a magic man in the sky" has an enormous burden to overcome at the outset.

(March 12, 2017 at 8:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually, it does.

Anything that proceeds from "there is a magic man in the sky" has an enormous burden to overcome at the outset.

Read the title of this thread again.

(March 12, 2017 at 8:37 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote:

(March 12, 2017 at 8:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually, it does.

Anything that proceeds from "there is a magic man in the sky" has an enormous burden to overcome at the outset.

Read the title of this thread again.

You need to read what Min said again. There are no convincing arguments. There just aren't.

I haven't heard a single convincing argument. The best support to a theistic claim I have heard has come from anecdotes of personal experience, but that can't be used to rationally convince anyone but them. Arguments can be countered through logic alone, but I can only shrug at many of those anecdotes without having actual evidence in hand.

Have to side with Min on this one. If there were convincing theist arguments, I wouldn't be an atheist.

Boru

Must day I haven't heard any convincing ones. Otherwise I might br playing for the other team now...