Huggy, you're just derailing the thread with a vendetta. Nobody gives a shit about your past grievances, and that doesn't prove some high and mighty truth about atheists in general.

(March 13, 2017 at 10:24 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Huggy, you're just derailing the thread with a vendetta. Nobody gives a shit about your past grievances, and that doesn't prove some high and mighty truth about atheists in general.

Actually what I've stated fall directly in line with the title of this thread. It simply states theist argument, it does not specify that the argument had to be about religion.

(March 13, 2017 at 10:57 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: After those fleeting moments of numinous insight, sober reflection does not ask if those experiences are real, for that is to deny one's own reality; but rather, what they mean and live fully by rationally incorporating them into one's life.

Bullshit. Applying appropriate levels of skepticism to personal experience is a sign that you accept your human experience for what it is, flawed and imperfect. Anything else is a denial of what we know about the human condition. To be swayed by the numinous to Godly conclusions is just ignoring our greater knowledge of how such experiences fool us. That's the real denial.

(March 13, 2017 at 10:19 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(March 13, 2017 at 10:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I know this is an embarrassing subject for you atheists but I'm not letting it go because it's something that's never been resolved. It's a common atheist tactic to quit responding to or ignore a thread when they have been proven to be wrong, I can provide at least 3 or more examples of this.

The only reason I can think of it is that the majority of you are anti-theist not atheist, which explains why atheists must take the opposite side of an argument against a theist. It doesn't matter if the subject has nothing to do with religion, or the atheist argument is patently false.

So please get outta here with that "we'll accept evidence" nonsense, because you clearly won't accept evidence from any theist as it is.

But let Minimalist stroll into a thread and fart in your guys general direction and provide not one source to back up his claims, and watch you guys scramble to see how much of his ass you can inhale.

We are embarrassed.  But it's for you.

You've never given evidence for your claims, or shown us where an "atheist argument" is patently false.

Who are you?

I provided evidence on many occasions, it's just that you're relatively new and weren't around to witness any of it.

What you should take notice of however is that no one that's been around long enough will challenge what I've stated earlier.

(March 13, 2017 at 11:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote: What you should take notice of however is that no one that's been around long enough will challenge what I've stated earlier.

Why? Because it's a childish expectation? Huggy, people don't like you. That may have to do with your unorthodox views or it may have to do with childish behavior such as you're displaying here. Regardless, that fact alone is enough to account for why nobody is engaging you. You don't need to search for arcane truths about atheists to explain that fact. And that you're claiming implicitly that your arcane explanation is the only one to account for your being ignored is easily seen to be false.

Yeah, Huggy, you might want to consider that the quality of conversation you get has more to do with you than any attribute of atheists.

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(March 13, 2017 at 11:15 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Bullshit.  Applying appropriate levels of skepticism to personal experience is a sign that you accept your human experience for what it is, flawed and imperfect.  Anything else is a denial of what we know about the human condition.  To be swayed by the numinous to Godly conclusions is just ignoring our greater knowledge of how such experiences fool us.  That's the real denial.

Bingo. He's essentially saying that the intellect will tell us that some of our experiences and feelings do not coordinate with reality, and he doesn't want to do that. Chad likes his warm-fuzzies too much to be concerned with whether they're real or not.

(March 13, 2017 at 11:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(March 13, 2017 at 11:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote: What you should take notice of however is that no one that's been around long enough will challenge what I've stated earlier.

Why? Because it's a childish expectation? Huggy, people don't like you. That may have to do with your unorthodox views or it may have to do with childish behavior such as you're displaying here. Regardless, that fact alone is enough to account for why nobody is engaging you. You don't need to search for arcane truths about atheists to explain that fact. And that you're claiming implicitly that your arcane explanation is the only one to account for your being ignored is easily seen to be false.

Really? Keep telling yourself that, meanwhile y'all will come out of the woodwork to engage lil Rik...

(March 13, 2017 at 11:45 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Really? Keep telling yourself that, meanwhile y'all will come out of the woodwork to engage lil Rik...

I'd rather debate him than you. At least he doesn't move the goalposts with every fucking post.