There are lots of problems with the Canadian health care system. People who make it seem like the magic bullet of health care have never had to go on a 16 month waiting list to get a hernia taken care of, as a close friend of mine was put on before opting to get it taken care of in the US. Or as an ex-girlfriend of mine, never even been called back for 3 months while trying to schedule surgery to get rods taken out of her back.

I wouldn't be opposed to making our health care system like that, but lets not pretend it's the perfect system or has no problems.

Quote:Conservatives believe the "free-market" can solve all problems because that is all their leadership (media and political) has ever told them.

Conservatards believe in the "free-market" the same way religitards believe in their invisible sky-daddy.  The fucker can do anything except provide evidence of its existence.

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(March 21, 2017 at 5:11 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: There are lots of problems with the Canadian health care system. People who make it seem like the magic bullet of health care have never had to go on a 16 month waiting list to get a hernia taken care of, as a close friend of mine was put on before opting to get it taken care of in the US. Or as an ex-girlfriend of mine, never even been called back for 3 months while trying to schedule surgery to get rods taken out of her back.

I wouldn't be opposed to making our health care system like that, but lets not pretend it's the perfect system or has no problems.

How long would someone in the US have to wait for hernia surgery if they had no insurance and were too poor to pay the bill?

Quote:The average price for surgery is very high

Below is an excerpt from an actual hospital bill for hernia surgery. Of particular note is the operating room charge of $11,570.00 for first 30 minutes in the operating room and pain pills are $35.00 each. The total bill was $27,967.00.

http://www.noinsurancesurgery.com/hernia...y-cost.htm

(March 21, 2017 at 5:11 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: There are lots of problems with the Canadian health care system. People who make it seem like the magic bullet of health care have never had to go on a 16 month waiting list to get a hernia taken care of, as a close friend of mine was put on before opting to get it taken care of in the US. Or as an ex-girlfriend of mine, never even been called back for 3 months while trying to schedule surgery to get rods taken out of her back.

I wouldn't be opposed to making our health care system like that, but lets not pretend it's the perfect system or has no problems.

Never been my experience nor anyone I know and I have been using it for a long time( nor would that be legal)   . Sure it's not perfect but it works better then the US I can say that for sure ( having both lived in US and used said health system) so do I count in your second sentence.

That said there are better systems like Germanys

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(March 20, 2017 at 12:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This will upset the Make 'Murrica Great Again crowd.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/upsho...&te=1&_r=0

Quote:Canada has a single-payer health care system, which is similar to the American Medicare system. It covers all people in Canada, including those with cystic fibrosis. People in the United States receive their insurance — if they do at all — from a number of sources.

Compared with patients in the United States who had private insurance coverage, patients in Canada had a similar risk of early death. Compared with patients who had public insurance like Medicaid, Canadians with cystic fibrosis had a 44 percent lower risk of early death. And compared with Americans who were uninsured, Canadians had a 77 percent lower risk of early death.

Health insurance and hockey.  If only the weather was better.

Weather depends on were you  and can shift massively from winter to winter Or  if you don't mind rain Vancouver's always pretty toasty thou you had better be millionaire to afford a house .