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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 7, 2017 at 11:04 am
Having to redefine words in order to prove something should be a huge red flag.
Oh, you proved that no one can be an atheist? I guess you must have had to redefine "proved" then, too.
Seriously, MK, shut the fuck up with this immature, vapid bullshit. You're becoming one of the worst members here.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 7, 2017 at 6:51 pm
(April 4, 2017 at 10:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: What is valued most (or things valued very near that) are all gods/idols.
Not by me. I don't even value my own alleged divinity. It exists purely on the basis on whether I have My pinky on the shift key and type My, my, Me, me, Mine or mine.
(Oh, and if I had to choose between gods and music, music would win 100% of the time in all possible multiverses and it wouldn't even be close.)
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 7, 2017 at 9:01 pm
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(April 7, 2017 at 11:04 am)Faith No More Wrote: Having to redefine words in order to prove something should be a huge red flag.
Like Atheists redefining the word Worship to show they don't worship themselves.
(April 7, 2017 at 11:04 am)Faith No More Wrote: Having to redefine words in order to prove something should be a huge red flag.
Like Atheists redefining the word Worship to show they don't worship themselves.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 7, 2017 at 9:05 pm
There's the "NO U!" argument that MK loves so much.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 7, 2017 at 11:58 pm
(April 7, 2017 at 9:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Like Atheists redefining the word Worship to show they don't worship themselves.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 8, 2017 at 12:15 am
(April 7, 2017 at 9:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Like Atheists redefining the word Worship to show they don't worship themselves.
We don't worship ourselves.
Stop. Lying. About. Us.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 8, 2017 at 2:17 am
(April 7, 2017 at 6:51 pm)Astreja Wrote: (April 4, 2017 at 10:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: What is valued most (or things valued very near that) are all gods/idols.
Not by me. I don't even value my own alleged divinity. It exists purely on the basis on whether I have My pinky on the shift key and type My, my, Me, me, Mine or mine.
(Oh, and if I had to choose between gods and music, music would win 100% of the time in all possible multiverses and it wouldn't even be close.)
One thing I'm sure about: beautiful music speaks of him, with every correct note being played.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 8, 2017 at 3:15 am
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Quote:Like Atheists redefining the word Worship to show they don't worship themselves.
Then you like something that doesn't exist oh wait. And again I don't worship myself sorry.
Quote:What is valued most (or things valued very near that) are all gods/idols.
Nope something can be valued a neither be a god or an idol
And as I said I don't care what the big book of nonsense says
Quote:Like Atheists redefining the word Worship to show they don't worship themselves.
Redefine huh
Worship
a. The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.
b. The ceremonies, prayers, or other religious forms by which this love is expressed: a chapel where worship is held daily.
reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power; also : an act of expressing such reverence
guess the dictionary is written by atheists
Value
3. Worth in usefulness or importance to the possessor; utility or merit
4. often values A principle or standard, as of behavior, that is considered important or desire
Huh no mention of being a divine sky pixie or being an idol . I know this isn't exhaustive but still a valid definition
Of course you'll just keep asserting that values must be sky fairies and valuing must be worship thou neither is either. And projecting your religious crap onto us. But at this point in don't really care as you have proven jack shit.
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 8, 2017 at 4:19 am
(April 4, 2017 at 8:13 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Worship at the end is nothing but what we value the most.
If it's ourselves we value the most, then we are our own god, and if we have many things we value on par with each other like prestige, wealth, out of the love of the self, they are all gods and idols.
The question is, why do people then not call themselves, "Self-Worshipers" if they disbelieve in a Creator? Or "Human worshipers + sex worshippers + wealth worshipers" etc....
Because it intrinsic it is a petty thing to worship all these things.But why when the word worship simply what we value most?
It's because we know intrinsically, we ought to value without limit. If we worship things other than the Source of all Value and the Absolute being, we feel ashamed. We naturally feel ashamed.
That is why Atheists never would say yes they believe in gods, but just not a supernatural one.
It's so shameful, to worship other than God, that no one wants to say it. We want to do away with the words worship and gods as if they never had meaning among society.
Ok, I'll shamelessly say it then. According to your explicit/implicit definitions of the terms "worship" and "gods", I worship gods other than the god that you profess to worship.
Now what?
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
April 8, 2017 at 5:03 am
Worship at the end is nothing but what we value the most.
Quote:If it's ourselves we value the most, then we are our own god, and if we have many things we value on par with each other like prestige, wealth, out of the love of the self, they are all gods and idols.
The question is, why do people then not call themselves, "Self-Worshipers" if they disbelieve in a Creator? Or "Human worshipers + sex worshippers + wealth worshipers" etc....
Because it intrinsic it is a petty thing to worship all these things.But why when the word worship simply what we value most?
It's because we know intrinsically, we ought to value without limit. If we worship things other than the Source of all Value and the Absolute being, we feel ashamed. We naturally feel ashamed.
That is why Atheists never would say yes they believe in gods, but just not a supernatural one.
It's so shameful, to worship other than God, that no one wants to say it. We want to do away with the words worship and gods as if they never had meaning among society.
Okay I'll unashamedly say according to you religious crap I worship a god other then yours now what ?
Now according to reality. and what I know be so. I worship nothing. My values are not gods idols or any form religious tripe .they simple are what they are and are totally divorced from said nonsense. I have no gods simple as that .
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