(April 16, 2017 at 9:00 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: On abortion he asks if the vagina magically confers personhood, He's apparently unaware that most abortions don't take place right before birth. Almost all abortions are before 20 weeks. There's not even a functioning nervous system to feel any pain. Many liberals myself included don't agree with abortion after the fetus reaches viability.

And his ignorant comments about trans people....he asks the 22 year old trans girl why she isn't 60 as if that's "gotcha" um being mentally and emotionally 60 when you are 22 just isn't a thing that exists. If it were we'd have documented cases of it. Transgenderism obviously is. False Equivalency.

And he quotes the 300 some thousand abortions done at Planned Parenthood, but there were other services that were done, millions of times apiece that thad nothing to do with abortion

He kind of reminds me of that guy Jefferey Lord that winds up on CNN quite a lot.

(April 16, 2017 at 9:46 pm)Orochi Wrote:

(April 16, 2017 at 9:00 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: On abortion he asks if the vagina magically confers personhood, He's apparently unaware that most abortions don't take place right before birth. Almost all abortions are before 20 weeks. There's not even a functioning nervous system to feel any pain. Many liberals myself included don't agree with abortion after the fetus reaches viability.

And his ignorant comments about trans people....he asks the 22 year old trans girl why she isn't 60 as if that's "gotcha" um being mentally and emotionally 60 when you are 22 just isn't a thing that exists. If it were we'd have documented cases of it. Transgenderism obviously is. False Equivalency.

And he quotes the 300 some thousand abortions done at Planned Parenthood, but there were other services that were done, millions of times apiece that thad nothing to do with abortion

He kind of reminds me of that guy Jefferey Lord that winds up on CNN quite a lot.

Indeed the first is absurd no ones arguing that the possession of a vagina makes one a person so straw man right off the bat .And there are legal concerns about late term abortions which massively legal restrict them and for good reason . 

Indeed comparing imagined scenarios about people  feeling 60 when one is 22 and comparing it to something she is actually claiming is just dishonest and clear fallacy of a non starter mixed with as you say false equivalency.  Transgenderism is a real phenomenon weather it's purely genetic or a mix of biology  and environment is the  only real question . And his idiotic notion that chromosomes are what solely define gender is just ignorant.

Yeah and the planned parenthood comment is a clear case of spotlighting

I have looked through more I'm not impressed

(April 18, 2017 at 12:08 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: I only know this about Ben Shapiro:






And of course, he comes across as a little shit trying to seem reasonable and failing spectacularly. One would simply think he'd leave it at "I don't think we should be giving anyone connected with the Kardashians any encouragement, even if one of them does come out as having an unusual condition" or "Great. Now let's wait for a celebrity whose previous work DOESN'T make one despair for Western Civilisation to come out as Trans," but he has to repeatedly call Zoey Tur sir. To be fair, Zoey at least does a better job of matching her voice to her new body than Caitlyn Jenner.

(April 16, 2017 at 6:40 pm)Crunchy Wrote:

(April 14, 2017 at 3:38 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Meh. I think his style of right wing are just taking advantage of the authoritarian left (social justice warriors or whatever) to push an agenda. Because he's right about those dipshits doesn't mean he's right about anything else.

That's pretty much how I see it as well, but I would add that his main problem is not just being right about SJW's or being wrong about Global warming or Tran-sexuality etc.., his biggest problem is dividing everyone into to us/them. If your not a conservative as identified by him, you're a leftist enemy hell bent on destroying freedom. 
But, he's not the only one making this mistake...

I haven't seen anyone here say that he is right about everything. All I've seen is some say that they like some of what he says. It's a few liberals who are behaving just like him with the us/them dividing line by saying that if you like anything he says, your surely are "one of them" and can be safely identified as an eternal enemy and insulted freely EVEN if you admit to having some views that are clearly liberal.

(April 14, 2017 at 2:28 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Ben Shapiro is great to listen to. Watching the ideological political left in the US degenerate over the last several years to the tipping point when they realized they were about to lose power after taking things too far, I've listened to Shapiro much more. He does the best job that I've seen of pointing out the hypocrisy and lunacy of the left, and the more that I've studied the left I'm starting to see it's going to implode as more on the left wake up.

He understands the cultural marxism and jacobinism is the left at it's core which has shifted from the haves versus the have nots to the oppressed versus the oppressors. There is a scale of oppression the left believes in, and it's a battle between various groups to claim the most victim hood status. The enemy of course is white males who they view as the least oppressed, and actually the greatest oppressor keeping everyone down.

He points out this is why there are so many labels the victims throw at their perceived oppressor so they can blame others for their failures. It's also the reason the left changed the deffinition of racism to mean oppressed. It's why some black people claim they are incapable of being racist because they are a victim of oppression.

(April 19, 2017 at 1:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(April 14, 2017 at 2:28 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Ben Shapiro is great to listen to. Watching the ideological political left in the US degenerate over the last several years to the tipping point when they realized they were about to lose power after taking things too far, I've listened to Shapiro much more. He does the best job that I've seen of pointing out the hypocrisy and lunacy of the left, and the more that I've studied the left I'm starting to see it's going to implode as more on the left wake up.

He understands the cultural marxism and jacobinism is the left at it's core which has shifted from the haves versus the have nots to the oppressed versus the oppressors. There is a scale of oppression the left believes in, and it's a battle between various groups to claim the most victim hood status. The enemy of course is white males who they view as the least oppressed, and actually the greatest oppressor keeping everyone down.

He points out this is why there are so many labels the victims throw at their perceived oppressor so they can blame others for their failures. It's also the reason the left changed the deffinition of racism to mean oppressed. It's why some black people claim they are incapable of being racist because they are a victim of oppression.

You do not have a left in the US just different levels of right.