As many times as I have done that damn political test on this forum, I am not doing it again.

As for how Trump has affected my life personally, he has not. It is a good thing I am not working and paying taxes, because there is no way I am paying for that retard's weekly golfing trips.

Quote:Trump has not added 3 Trillion dollars to the American economy, that is physically impossible.

To be fair, scoob did not make this claim.  What he said was that he - personally - has made money because stock values have increase.  'The stock market' and 'the American economy' are not the same thing.

To an extent, though, Trump is partly responsible for the increase in stock values, because investors are responding positively to Trump's rhetoric.  Whether the rally is sustainable isn't at all certain.

Boru

(May 13, 2017 at 7:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:Trump has not added 3 Trillion dollars to the American economy, that is physically impossible.

To be fair, scoob did not make this claim.  What he said was that he - personally - has made money because stock values have increase.  'The stock market' and 'the American economy' are not the same thing.

To an extent, though, Trump is partly responsible for the increase in stock values, because investors are responding positively to Trump's rhetoric.  Whether the rally is sustainable isn't at all certain.

Boru

The sad thing is businesses tend to respond positively to talk of deregulation. If they're less likely to feel like they're being constrained by red tape (whether it really is just useless bureaucracy or shit that's put there to save lives), they're likely to treat things like it's all good. I'm sure the same thing happened when Enron was still functioning.

What goes up, must come down.

Economists know that boom and bust are an inevitable cycle in our markets. Booms based on nothing but moving money around are false, creating no new money, so eventually result in a bigger bust.
Everything was on a fairly stable rise before 45 took office. I'm willing to bet 401k all over were improved as well.

But hey, we can look forward to having that 401k money taxed soon. That'll be good news, right Scoob? Then those wealthy folks won't have to pay as much taxes so they can make more jobs, or maybe buy a second personal jet. One or the other, who cares.

Seriously though, I'm with Ham, kt caused me to drop my rose colored glasses on humanity, and accept that humans are more flawed than I liked to think. And that progress isnt permanent, sometimes humanity moves backwards. I knew this historically speaking, but held a sort of fiction in my mind that we had learned from past mistakes. Fictional belief deleted. Thanks 45!

I admit mostly he has only caused me emotional distress. Can't open AF or FB or talk to another person without hearing about North Korea, climate change info taken off the .gov website, or 45 claiming he's good friend with dead people, or admitting he had no idea what he was getting into, or hearing that the elderly and poor might have to pay more for healthcare to finance a taxbreak for the ultra rich, etc ad nauseum.

Fortunately, 45 is more bluster than action so far, and incredibly inept, and a lot of what he says he's going to do isn't actually getting done. Yet, at least. So it's just an edge of the seat waiting game to see if he'll just say monstrously stupid things, or actually follow through and do them.

I can tell you that since the election there has been an upswing in aggressive driving locally. Also, way more rednecks driving down side streets at 3 am on weekends hollering and playing loud and being assholes in general. They did this before, too, but it has definitely increased.

I've also actually been lectured twice by Trumpsters while waiting in line at the local Safeway. Nothing aimed at me specifically. They just see a middle aged white lady in this same redneck town they live in and assume I agree with them. Those were both uncomfortable, but I'm a coward so I didnt piss off either of them. Still, ugh, disgusting.

(May 13, 2017 at 7:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(May 13, 2017 at 3:37 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Personally for me, I've made money in my 401k with the 3 trillion dollars added to the stock market since the election, which was supposed to go down as some democrats said would happen.

Really?  Did you cash out your 401K?   No?  Then how the hell did you make money?   Do you remember the last time when the stock market added 3 trillion in 6 month?   It lost 9 trillion in the following 6 month.   When was the last time, in your opinion, when the acute exuberance of the stock market manipulators, giddily salivating for a few month at the prospect of becoming even richer purely by giving less back to a society that enabled them to be rich in the first, actually portended a sustained expansion of the economy that might benefit little prayer besotted worms like you?

^^^ this ^^^

I've been through no less than three or four of those cycles. It ain't made money until you withdraw it. Remember 2008? 2000? Looking at history, by any objective measure the market is very overvalued.

@OP

I'm not worried about me, I - for now - have money and I'll do fine. I'm concerned about those who don't and won't.

Basically the same as the last time this test came up and more than likely inaccurate. For some of the questions they needed other alternative answers (sometimes, depends on the situation, neutral, no opinion, does not apply, this question is stupid.....)



Edit: Oops forgot to respond to the title. No increase in laxatives therefore not impacted.

He has made me ashamed to be an American.

(May 13, 2017 at 7:21 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

Explain this graph for me.

I would leave out the "Libertarian" part because while they get social issues right, to me economically they simply want Somalia too. Libertarians say "Oh I like gays and pot should be legal, but it is still every person for themselves". Libertarians are economically Republicans on steroids without the bigotry. 

What good does it a gay person if they cant meet the cost of living? At least you aren't calling for their arrest or death like the religious right?

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(May 13, 2017 at 10:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He has made me ashamed to be an American.

Trump has not made me ashamed to be an American, he has made me ashamed that he is our president. Humans should be ashamed that we have a moron like this as a world leader regardless of nationality.