Now if only he doesn't end up here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/...ch-UK.html

WOW!
Do they even have guards? (Kidding)

And yet their recidivism rate is the lowest in Europe.
I've long thought the prison systems in America need serious reform. Treating people like animals is going to result in animals eventually being released into the public.

It's especially idiotic to incarcerate those sentenced to life without parole along side those who are short timers. Lifers have nothing to lose. They can do anything they want to anyone and except for being punished by being temporarily housed in Administrative Segregation (Ad Seg), there is no deterrent that can possibly intimidate someone who knows full well they have free reign to express their violent nature, because the only way they're ever getting out of prison is in a box.

I'd like to see that Norway model open here in the States. Many prisons are now private corporate run facilities, so it's not beyond comprehension though the far right ultra conservative ilk would no doubt combust at the thought.
Impetus enough right there, to go for it.

Is it time to revisit the GARP policy, perhaps go beyond federal and push for it's adoption by the UN?

UN can fuck itself, seriously.

It plays absolute hell on behavior that I can understand by suggesting that everyone should play nice together or most people with a military will have you dead.

On top of that none of them can war with each other or gain new territory. It stagnates technological progress.

Ah but if they made guarantees of anal rape regarding certain prisoners held in member countries...one could develop respect for them.

(July 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Ah but if they made guarantees of anal rape regarding certain prisoners held in member countries...one could develop respect for them.

As being even more idiotic? Haha.

I'd withdraw the US from it immediately if I could, and that's even with the US being primarily responsible for the damn thing. War, I understand this. Temporary alliances? I get it. Even longterm relationships between countries... I can appreciate those. But this mass-forever-psuedoalliance... all it says to me is that "we're all pansies that couldn't defend a country by ourselves". Which means they do not own their countries.

(July 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Ah but if they made guarantees of anal rape regarding certain prisoners held in member countries...one could develop respect for them.

Or... those countries would suddenly have a high recidivism rate along with a high production of rapists released into the population.

Wildly smart idea, old chap!

Yeah you know, kinks to iron out, it's a work in progress.

(July 25, 2011 at 5:16 am)bozo Wrote: As an aside, I note that none of the faithheads who post here have commented thus far on the actions of a christian fundi.

That's because he was not a Christian, which was an erroneous report from an AP article. It came from a police officer's speculation, after further investigation no clear ties can be made between this terrorist and the Christian faith. In fact, many of his writings bash Protestants and have Pagan flares. Many media outlets first reported he was a Muslim, which was also wrong. He appears to be an anti-religion nut who hated the fact Islam is taking over Europe. Shame on you for trying to use a tragedy like this to further your anti-religious agenda.

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(July 26, 2011 at 12:38 am)Minimalist Wrote: He did use a bomb....got 1/10th of what he did with the gun. Japanese nuts set off five sarin gas devices in the Tokyo subway and killed 13. Guns are very good at what they do.

Norway has very strict gun laws, why didn't they work? Seems like the nut was the only person who had a gun. Guns don't "do" anything by the way.

Quote:Min, I think you know that I was speaking of the issue in general, not for this specific case, considering I mentioned our Constitution.

He still would have chosen another weapon.

It was actually the "interpreting" line, Shel. We have spent the last 200 years interpreting and amending the constitution into the caricature it now is.