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Evidence to Convict?

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#61
RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 6:47 pm
Once again simply does not get it
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 6:54 pm
I've lost count of how many times RR has posted this same thread in his time here.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 7:03 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 6:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I've lost count of how many times RR has posted this same thread in his time here.

Too many
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 7:12 pm
Here is why I considered the 11 eyewitness accounts as evidence. The evidence may not be enough to convict without video, fingerprints, DNA, etc. but still qualify. Roadrunner stated these people were strangers. The scenario might be a crowded cafe. The witnesses are strangers to one another. What collaboration might there be between them? What would be the motivation for 11 strangers to bear false witness against the attacker?
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 7:19 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 7:12 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Here is why I considered the 11 eyewitness accounts as evidence. The evidence may not be enough to convict without video, fingerprints, DNA, etc. but still qualify. Roadrunner stated these people were strangers. The scenario might be a crowded cafe. The witnesses are strangers to one another. What collaboration might there be between them? What would be the motivation for 11 strangers to bear false witness against the attacker?

Strangers to each other AND the victim AND the suspect? Even then, I explained why fear could be an irrational motivator to lie or skew the truth. Maybe they're all sociopaths and just want to frame an innocent person whether they're genuinely guilty or not. It's still shite.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 7:26 pm (This post was last modified: August 2, 2017 at 7:29 pm by Amarok.)
(August 2, 2017 at 7:19 pm)Astonished Wrote:
(August 2, 2017 at 7:12 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Here is why I considered the 11 eyewitness accounts as evidence. The evidence may not be enough to convict without video, fingerprints, DNA, etc. but still qualify. Roadrunner stated these people were strangers. The scenario might be a crowded cafe. The witnesses are strangers to one another. What collaboration might there be between them? What would be the motivation for 11 strangers to bear false witness against the attacker?

Strangers to each other AND the victim AND the suspect? Even then, I explained why fear could be an irrational motivator to lie or skew the truth. Maybe they're all sociopaths and just want to frame an innocent person whether they're genuinely guilty or not. It's still shite.

11 witnesses could each has there own bias against the accused or motive to lie . But even if they did not no evidence no case so I don't think there motives matter . But as I have said before this is nothing like the bible so why are we still treating it like it is. Considering we have counter evidence that renders the bible accounts moot.
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 7:32 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 7:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(August 2, 2017 at 7:19 pm)Astonished Wrote: Strangers to each other AND the victim AND the suspect? Even then, I explained why fear could be an irrational motivator to lie or skew the truth. Maybe they're all sociopaths and just want to frame an innocent person whether they're genuinely guilty or not. It's still shite.

11 witnesses could each has there own bias against the accused or motive to lie . But even if they did not no evidence no case so I don't think there motives matter . But as I have said before this is nothing like the bible so why are we still treating it like it is. Considering we have counter evidence that renders the bible accounts moot.
True, perhaps they are a racist lynch mob.
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August 2, 2017 at 7:38 pm (This post was last modified: August 2, 2017 at 7:40 pm by Amarok.)
(August 2, 2017 at 7:32 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(August 2, 2017 at 7:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: 11 witnesses could each has there own bias against the accused or motive to lie . But even if they did not no evidence no case so I don't think there motives matter . But as I have said before this is nothing like the bible so why are we still treating it like it is. Considering we have counter evidence that renders the bible accounts moot.
True, perhaps they are a racist lynch mob.

Or simply they don't like the way he looks or acts or smells or eats.  Maybe they overheard him say somthing general populations would deem offensive .Humans are very prejudice creatures . Human bias studies clearly show people with certain qualities are far more likely to be believed or lied about then others .
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 7:55 pm (This post was last modified: August 2, 2017 at 7:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It wouldn't be the first time that many witnesses independently pointed to a suspect that absolutely -didn't- commit the crime.

RR would have us accept the lynching theory of justice in service of adding credibility to skyfairy, which, incidentally and ironically, was lynched for "justice".   Surprise surprise.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
August 2, 2017 at 8:01 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 7:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It wouldn't be the first time that many witnesses independently pointed to a suspect that absolutely -didn't- commit the crime.

RR would have us accept the lynching theory of justice in service of adding credibility to skyfairy, which, incidentally and ironically, was lynched for "justice".   Surprise surprise.

Yup even multiple groups who have nothing else in common can hold to a certain attitudes towards certain people. But as I said this has shit to do with the bible or the authors claims so d don't know why this thread exists .
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