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Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
"Plane English"????
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
WTF plain English on  Qo'noS maybe
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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(August 12, 2017 at 10:18 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 12, 2017 at 7:55 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote: Thanks for saying so. I, also have no problem admitting ignorance. The older I get the more I realize I don't know.

It's a shame you seem to focus your questions only upon views you don't agree with. Ignorance, like intelligence, is an internal state of affairs. You strike me as someone who hasn't devoted this sort of questioning to your own beliefs.

Tell us what you know about your god. Not what you believe, not what you think you've experienced, but what we can look at with our own eyes and say, "yeah, he might be making a little sense here." Can you do that?

I doubt it ... but if you've got objective support for your god hypothesis like the abiogenesis hypotheses have support (in terms of autocatalytic reactions being observed, in terms of RNA evolution being observed), feel free to share it.

Until then, your questions, pointed as they are, seem very defensive, rather than pointed at expanding knowledge. "We don't know how life started, therefore my god started it" is not very convincing. I'd suggest you start by building your own case. And if you have no case, then at the very worst your hypothesis is no better than those you rail against, and from my own perspective much worse.

Give me evidence. Change my mind.

Now your sounding like Brian.

You both seem so sure I am here just to convert you. That everything I say comes along with an implied: "Well if you can't answer that then God must have done it." I am not and it doesn't. I doubt there is anything I could say that could change your mind anyway. So I had no intention of making the argument that you think I was making.

I do like to argue and see if people are consistent when they argue.

I hope you can accept my word for it so we can skip the: "Prove God, Prove God, etc." Every time I post something.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
(August 12, 2017 at 11:21 pm)Godscreated Wrote: To bad you have trouble understanding plane English.

GC

Maybe if you learned to speak it...
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(August 12, 2017 at 11:41 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: "Plane English"????



I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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Yep, I realized I spelled it wrong, actually used the wrong word sorry, but it was plain enough that you all understood.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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(August 12, 2017 at 11:21 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(August 12, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I disagree, That last sentence was a garbled mess.

 To bad you have trouble understanding plane English. You mean you think AF is going to change the rules so you can oppress the Christians that venture to this site. 

GC

Now it's oppression?  I do thank you that gave me a long hearty chuckle.

Have a blessed day lost one. RAmen
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rjh4 is back Wrote:Then why would anyone here who is an evolutionist, think it is a "bad" thing that so many people believe in God? Isn't it then a "good" thing from an evolutionary point of view?

Are you familiar with the 'naturalistic fallacy'? Something being natural doesn't make it good. Evolution is a natural process, not a moral guideline.

There's more to life than reproductive success. I care whether the things I believe are actually likely to be true, and I believe other people should care about whether their beliefs are true, too.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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(August 13, 2017 at 8:02 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(August 12, 2017 at 11:41 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: "Plane English"????




Heheheheheha love that movie.

(August 13, 2017 at 12:27 am)rjh4 is back Wrote:
(August 12, 2017 at 10:18 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It's a shame you seem to focus your questions only upon views you don't agree with. Ignorance, like intelligence, is an internal state of affairs. You strike me as someone who hasn't devoted this sort of questioning to your own beliefs.

Tell us what you know about your god. Not what you believe, not what you think you've experienced, but what we can look at with our own eyes and say, "yeah, he might be making a little sense here." Can you do that?

I doubt it ... but if you've got objective support for your god hypothesis like the abiogenesis hypotheses have support (in terms of autocatalytic reactions being observed, in terms of RNA evolution being observed), feel free to share it.

Until then, your questions, pointed as they are, seem very defensive, rather than pointed at expanding knowledge. "We don't know how life started, therefore my god started it" is not very convincing. I'd suggest you start by building your own case. And if you have no case, then at the very worst your hypothesis is no better than those you rail against, and from my own perspective much worse.

Give me evidence. Change my mind.

Now your sounding like Brian.

You both seem so sure I am here just to convert you. That everything I say comes along with an implied: "Well if you can't answer that then God must have done it." I am not and it doesn't. I doubt there is anything I could say that could change your mind anyway. So I had no intention of making the argument that you think I was making.

I do like to argue and see if people are consistent when they argue.

I hope you can accept my word for it so we can skip the: "Prove God, Prove God, etc." Every time I post something.

We know you are not here to convert us. You are actually here to convince yourself but don't realize it yet.


You simply don't like it because we are not treating your pet deity claim as any more special than anyone else with a different pet deity.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
(August 14, 2017 at 10:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: We know you are not here to convert us.

So I did convince you about something! Smile

Brian37 Wrote:You simply don't like it because we are not treating your pet deity claim as any more special than anyone else with a different pet deity.

What God claim did I even make that you are talking about?
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