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What would you do if you found out God existed
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
LOL, she's got her own setup now (Tibs squared it away), hoping to get her on board when she gets the chance.  She's currently busy herding cats, whereas I'm running out of useful things to do and money to do them with.

Soo......fucking....bored.

(the missus aint enough of a mouth breathing idiot to say something like that anyway, I handle that sort of thing)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: I disagree.  You catholic indoctrination is what makes you think atheists are angry at the idea of god and would hate him if he was found to e

Ok, you "disagree" so you mean you think I'm lying? Can you state where in catholic doctrine it says that atheists are angry at God?

I guess you can continue to tell me I'm wrong when I tell you the impression I had that many atheists don't like the idea of a god (whether correct or not) came from this forum. Not from anything I learned in the Church.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 12, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: I disagree.  You catholic indoctrination is what makes you think atheists are angry at the idea of god and would hate him if he was found to e

Ok, you "disagree" so you mean you think I'm lying? Can you state where in catholic doctrine it says that atheists are angry at God?

I guess you can continue to tell me I'm wrong when I tell you the impression I had that many atheists don't like the idea of a god (whether correct or not) came from this forum. Not from anything I learned in the Church.

I was raised RC.  But it doesn't have to be stated in dogma or teachings.  Our culture pushes that idea into people.

I didn't say you were lying.  Just blind to the effects of your religion.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 13, 2017 at 9:35 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(October 12, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, you "disagree" so you mean you think I'm lying? Can you state where in catholic doctrine it says that atheists are angry at God?

I guess you can continue to tell me I'm wrong when I tell you the impression I had that many atheists don't like the idea of a god (whether correct or not) came from this forum. Not from anything I learned in the Church.

I was raised RC.  But it doesn't have to be stated in dogma or teachings.  Our culture pushes that idea into people.

I didn't say you were lying.  Just blind to the effects of your religion.

Speak for yourself then. Maybe you had a different experience but MY "culture" didn't push any idea about ahteists being angry at God. We didn't sit around talking about atheists, and the reason I joined this forum to begin with was because I didn't know much about them.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 12, 2017 at 1:53 pm)Khemikal Wrote: LOL, she's got her own setup now (Tibs squared it away), hoping to get her on board when she gets the chance.  She's currently busy herding cats, whereas I'm running out of useful things to do and money to do them with.  

Soo......fucking....bored.

(the missus aint enough of a mouth breathing idiot to say something like that anyway, I handle that sort of thing)

Oh! What's her username so we can give her a proper welcome?
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 13, 2017 at 9:39 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 13, 2017 at 9:35 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: I was raised RC.  But it doesn't have to be stated in dogma or teachings.  Our culture pushes that idea into people.

I didn't say you were lying.  Just blind to the effects of your religion.

Speak for yourself then. Maybe you had a different experience but MY "culture" didn't push any idea about ahteists being angry at God. We didn't sit around talking about atheists, and the reason I joined this forum to begin with was because I didn't know much about them.

American culture pushes that idea.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
@Joods

The Atheists Wife.  I think she was dispensing kudos yesterday while I was cooking dinner.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(October 9, 2017 at 1:20 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I don't believe in magic; I believe that people differ, and from the obvious they will never unite. Good luck unifying Arabia if you can ! or Asia or Europe. Brixit was an example. The verse applies very well

You must, if you can quote god.

No?

Quote:Sura 20, The Quran:
( 69 )   And throw what is in your right hand; it will swallow up what they have crafted. What they have crafted is but the trick of a magician, and the magician will not succeed wherever he is."

This was from the story of Moses's confrontation with the magicians of the Pharaoh. The difference between him and them; was they were doing "magic" which is mere tricks; while Moses's stuff were the real deal.

Not magic; but a staff that turns into a snake. Only non-believers and ignorant people would say that is a "magical trick".

Through this verse; I can say that magic and trick are parallels in the Quran, unlike what many say.
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
So, you do believe in magic, then.  You just don't like it when people call it magic...because you think that sounds stupid.


Yeah, I know exactly how you feel.  Rolleyes
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
(October 13, 2017 at 1:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So, you do believe in magic, then?

No.

Quote:Sura 20, The Quran:
( 60 )   So Pharaoh went away, put together his plan, and then came [to Moses].
( 61 )   Moses said to the magicians summoned by Pharaoh, "Woe to you! Do not invent a lie against Allah or He will exterminate you with a punishment; and he has failed who invents [such falsehood]."

(October 13, 2017 at 1:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So, you do believe in magic, then.  You just don't like it when people call it magic...because you think that sounds stupid.


Yeah, I know exactly how you feel.  Rolleyes

I believe in the metaphorical magic: stuff like "you were bewitched by the shiny offer given in the mall to sell you stuff..."
But not like "my staff will turn into a snake ! and my shout will tear down missiles in the air"



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