(October 18, 2017 at 3:01 pm)JackRussell Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 2:54 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: In my opinion theists are completely wrong when saying who should go to hell.
First of all , one of the most important storyes in the bible is that of " Jesus and Magdalena", acording to that story they should never judge others.
I met a monk once , he told us a story , it went something like this:
3 people where on an island , isolated and started to pray to God(without the knowledge of any religion) , after sometime a high priest arrived there with a ship and asked the 3 persones to tell them how they pray , dont remember the exact words but it was something ilogical ,after the priest heard how they were praying sayed that this isn't the correct prayer and told them the one that they should use.
After the priest left the island the 3 people wanted to pray in the way that he taught them but forgot , so they went after him and yelled " Stop, we forghot the prayer", the priest turned and saw them running on water , he sayed " go back to the island because you don't nees my prayer". The second reason why theist shouldn't assume who goes to hell.

So what happens to me then.

I think the bible and jesus stories are bullshit.

Do I go to hell?

If I don't, I think many of your co-religionists would disagree.

That's the problem talking to theists, you all think you have understood your religion correctly.

And I am left in the dark for saying "I am not convinced."

Of course I think is a fact . But it has that missing link that I keep hearing about , is that true ? .
It doesn't matter if the story is true . The idea of the story is that before you judge others you should look at yourself . Didn't tryed to convince you , I just gave two exampels of why theist shouldn't assume who goes to hell ( please do not say hell doesn't exist , that is not the point)
I do not promote a religion , but i do not think that religion is the problem
Question : Does the man hit the nail with the hammer , or the hammer hits the nail with the man ?

Sorry, could not make head nor tail of that last post.

"Head nor tail" I'm not familiarized with that , not a native english speaker

Sorry,

Means I did not understand.

(October 18, 2017 at 3:15 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Sorry, could not make head nor tail of that last post.

I believe in something that created everything ( God) , no definition for him yet , but i don't realy care.
The only thing that I care about are people that is why I study psyhology on my own.

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Hmm
I didn't tryed to convince you of anything. I just stated why theist shouldn't assume they know who goes to hell.
I don't think that religion is the problem.

(October 18, 2017 at 3:25 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 3:15 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Sorry, could not make head nor tail of that last post.

I believe in something that created everything ( God) , no definition for him yet , but i don't realy care.
The only thing that I care about are people that is why I study psyhology on my own.

Why do you believe that?

There is no evidence for it.

No evidence to disprove it either . This problem is uncertain and out of our reach for now.

Not true. There are naturalistic and evidenced explanations for everything since the big-bang.

There are good ideas about inflationary cosmology too.

There is evidence for stellar and planetary formation, gravitation, black holes, etc; sure not very question totally answered but..

We have evidence for abiogenetic processes,sure not very question totally answered but..

We know that life evolves.


Sure, we don't know the answer to everything, but over the course of human history, especially in recent history, we know quite a bit, and it's amazing.

And a god has never been part of any of this knowledge advancing.

(October 18, 2017 at 3:30 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: No evidence to disprove it either . This problem is uncertain and out of our reach for now.

Because it's all about emotion with you.  You WANT it to be true.  It feels good to believe it.  But I bet you don't believe in all the other gods that haven't been disproved.

I would suggest you start a new thread with your questions.

This thread is predicated on evolution being a hoax.

it isn't. Evolution is a fact.