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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:27 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 11:20 pm)Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: The change is that I was clinging onto the hope that all that stuff was there, and now I've given up trying to force that fantasy. But now that leaves me with no reason to get out of bed in the morning.
You should probably see somebody about that. That's depression, not atheism.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:34 pm
The definitely depression . Crippling depression by the description. That is indeed not a subject an atheist forum is equipt for.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:37 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 11:20 pm)Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 11:14 pm)Hammy Wrote: If you never truly believed then what have you lost? I don't understand. Did you not believe you'd go to heaven?
As a kid, I believed that, yeah. I guess I'm having a hard time explaining it.
I lost hope, but...its more that I've never "gained" anything, in growing up. No purpose, no meaning, nothing.
(November 3, 2017 at 11:20 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I wouldn't know, people have wildly divergent ideas on that. I'm simply suggesting that if you saw it in anything before apart from god..it;s still there now..and if you only saw it in god before..it was never there to begin with. There's just no change.
LOL, oh I think we can shoot lower than all that. Some people aren't fulfilled by life or family. If you weren't before, it's no surprise that you aren't now. If you were before..well...you're still alive and they still exist.
Okay then. Have you always felt that there was no transcendant good and no reason for suffering and life was meaningless and there's no point in doing anything? Your earlier comments seemed to indicate a change, and a change that had something to do with atheism..but if you've always been an atheist..........?
The change is that I was clinging onto the hope that all that stuff was there, and now I've given up trying to force that fantasy. But now that leaves me with no reason to get out of bed in the morning.
All that shit that needs to get done? All those tigers to tame? Yes, I agree with Khemical, you may be depressed. I know that I've been there. You make your own reality, you can't depend on anyone else doing it for you. I felt adrift for awhile after admitting I was an atheist, after a bit of not believing (like 20 years). The atheist label is hard to accept in this culture, though it is getting easier. Find something that you enjoy, if you can. Like Voltaire says in Candide, one finds joy in tending one's garden. Find your garden. OK, that's all kind of disjointed; I've been awake far too long because of a sick dog. See if you can parse anything useful out of it.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:41 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 11:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: The definitely depression . Crippling depression by the description. That is indeed not a subject an atheist forum is equipt for.
You're right, I'm sorry. This isn't appropriate here. I'll leave.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:44 pm
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:49 pm
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Time for dick jokes and cat memes yet?
@Grey. I've been super low before. Lightyears away from that now. So maybe hope for that? Get out of bed in the morning to get your life and your head together so you don;t feel like shit all the time. It could happen.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 3, 2017 at 11:50 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 11:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Time for dick jokes and cat memes yet?
I always time for that 
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 4, 2017 at 1:51 am
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 4, 2017 at 2:09 am
Quote:Like...I don't know, I feel that I don't have a reason to do anything now.
Sounds more like clinical depression.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 4, 2017 at 2:35 am
This is why a lot of us feel that religion, especially those that stress obeying an authority figure, is damaging. When you live to please such a figure, even if you're not sure it's there, and that's taken from you, suddenly your purpose is gone. And here's the twisted part: religion makes living for yourself a crime. It's designed that way in order to guilt people into staying or rejoining.
You are not selfish for wanting to live your life the way you want. You are not a bad person for wanting it. You are not letting anyone down. A lot of the people here deconverted and know what you're going through. You are not alone.
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