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New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
#41
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 3, 2017 at 10:11 am)Aroura Wrote: This forum really is filled with a lot of insensitive assholes. Come on guys, someone's suffering and your advice is, stop suffering? Buck up. Get over yourself?
Not all, but there are a lot of outright mean responses here.

I agree, Aroura. Everybody has their failings and a lack of empathy and/or intellectual snobbishness is often ours. I won't pretend that I'm not immune to this. I can be an asshole too. People like you are good for our community. Please continue to keep us honest and let us know when we need to do better. You serve an important role here.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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#42
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 3, 2017 at 12:47 am)
Quote:Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: So, I've been denying my atheism for years, but man, I just can't do it anymore. That said, there's a reason I've been avoiding it. I'm terrified right now. I don't get how anyone's supposed to be happy like this.

I feel like...all I can do is cope with life now. I don't see what there is to look forward to, or to take reassurance in. Everything just seems empty.

(Why yes, I'm on meds and seeing a counselor. Doesn't help much.)

Your feeling is entirely appropriate.  On atheism there is no grounds for having hope.  You simply have the life you appear to have now, and when it is over...you are over.  Nothing that you say, do, or feel has any ultimate meaning or significance.  If I somehow found myself an atheist, I can imagine myself feeling much the same way.  Knowing myself, I would likely end up killing myself through destructive addictive behavior, probably by way of the abuse of alcohol and use of prostitutes.  Thankfully, I'm free from that kind of existence as a Christian.  I would invite you to reconsider the truth of theism and Christianity in particular.
In His Grip,

Odoital77

~ "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C. S. Lewis, Is Theology Poetry?
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#43
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
Oh, look, a vulture
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#44
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 4, 2017 at 3:05 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Oh, look, a vulture

Don't be silly Kev vultures are useful . Apologists like this loser are of value to no one .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#45
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 4, 2017 at 3:30 am)
Quote:Tizheruk Wrote:
(November 4, 2017 at 3:05 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Oh, look, a vulture

Don't be silly Kev vultures are useful . Apologists like this loser are of value to no one .

Why so bitter, hostile, and angry?  Just curious...
In His Grip,

Odoital77

~ "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C. S. Lewis, Is Theology Poetry?
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#46
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
Bringing up suicide to a depressed person is flat out disgusting.  DISGUSTING!  

"Hey, in your position, I'd kill myself, why not change your mind?"

That is a bitter, hostile, angry, thoughtless, selfish, asshole thing to say, that's why.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#47
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
None of they above . But all the above festers in your long preachy rant above . So kindly stop projecting .

(November 4, 2017 at 4:12 am)Aroura Wrote: Bringing up suicide to a depressed person is flat out disgusting.  DISGUSTING!  

"Hey, in your position, I'd kill myself, why not change your mind?"

That is a bitter, hostile, angry, thoughtless, selfish, asshole thing to say, that's why.
And their is that as well
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#48
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 4, 2017 at 3:35 am)Odoital77 Wrote:
(November 4, 2017 at 3:30 am)
Quote:Tizheruk Wrote: Don't be silly Kev vultures are useful . Apologists like this loser are of value to no one .

Why so bitter, hostile, and angry?  Just curious...
If you don't like or want honest responses to questions and comments, then shut down the forum.  Simply because I can relate to his feelings and would likely myself suffer from taking a destructive path, were I an atheist, doesn't mean that I want or am suggesting he do the same.  Quite the contrary.  But like I said, if honesty isn't desired or valued, then I suggest dropping the pretense that the world "forum" really has any meaning or that anything is being accomplished here.
In His Grip,

Odoital77

~ "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C. S. Lewis, Is Theology Poetry?
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#49
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
Destructive path?? How do you view atheists? We lead similar lives to theists, just without the silly nonsense.
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#50
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 4, 2017 at 5:15 am)Cod Wrote: Destructive path?? How do you view atheists? We lead similar lives to theists, just without the silly nonsense.

Those words relate to how I would behave as an atheist, not necessarily how I view individual atheists themselves.
In His Grip,

Odoital77

~ "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C. S. Lewis, Is Theology Poetry?
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