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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 3, 2017 at 9:25 pm
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RR, tell us what you don't understand about evolutionary biology that has you thinking that anyone (or anything) pulls heritable biological traits and/or structures out of thin air? Thin air is not where you get your genes from. What don't we see popping up all over the place, mutations...adaptations? We do. Mutations are random(ish), adaptation is not. Neither are intentional.
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 3, 2017 at 9:30 pm
C'mon now Khemical. We all know that mutations have to pop up almost overnight, or at least within six days. After all, their all-powerful gawd has to rest every seventh. 
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 3, 2017 at 9:42 pm
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 3, 2017 at 9:55 pm
GC, you've been asked this before, repeatedly, and completely ignored it, repeatedly, but I'll give it one more go.
Would you please give your understanding of what the theory of evolution describes?
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 3, 2017 at 9:58 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 9:55 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: GC, you've been asked this before, repeatedly, and completely ignored it, repeatedly, but I'll give it one more go.
Would you please give your understanding of what the theory of evolution describes?
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 3, 2017 at 11:04 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Quote:https://www.dnalc.org/view/16982-The-Eye...unked.html
Click - if you are not afraid of accidentally learning something.
I didn't have time to watch the video....
Do they have new facts concerning the evolution of the eye; or did they just shine up some old "just so" stories?
My favorite part of the old show, was when with some nifty slight of hand, they pull some lenses, some cones, and other stuff out of thin air (abracadabra style) when they think no one is looking. I'm always curious if this is the case, then why don't we see this kind of stuff popping up all over the place? It seems only to be where and when needed (which doesn't sound very random or unintentional to me).
Make some time. Maybe put down that stupid fucking bible and learn something useful.
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 4, 2017 at 7:50 am
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(November 3, 2017 at 9:55 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: GC, you've been asked this before, repeatedly, and completely ignored it, repeatedly, but I'll give it one more go.
Would you please give your understanding of what the theory of evolution describes?
And while GC is (not) answering, tell us what information is and what mutations are. Because at the moment all we can see is that he doesn't know, and deliberately does not want to know so that he can continue saying that mutations do not increase information. And when pressed on the matter says that I am being childish and that he does not want to continue. When pressed for whether mutations happen it is not clear whether he believes they do or not.
What is information?
What is a mutation?
Justify why you say that a mutation of the data does not increase information.
Please describe the theory of evolution by natural selection.
Until GC answers these then we can ignore everything he says on the subject.
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 4, 2017 at 8:48 am
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 4, 2017 at 9:00 am
Notice that the article says that it's "according to research papers", as distinct from "according to evolutionists". I mention it now, because it's likely the last time we'll see it here.
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
November 4, 2017 at 9:06 am
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(November 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Quote:https://www.dnalc.org/view/16982-The-Eye...unked.html
Click - if you are not afraid of accidentally learning something.
I didn't have time to watch the video....
Do they have new facts concerning the evolution of the eye; or did they just shine up some old "just so" stories?
My favorite part of the old show, was when with some nifty slight of hand, they pull some lenses, some cones, and other stuff out of thin air (abracadabra style) when they think no one is looking. I'm always curious if this is the case, then why don't we see this kind of stuff popping up all over the place? It seems only to be where and when needed (which doesn't sound very random or unintentional to me).
My favorite part is how you guys would have to actually witness the evolution of the human eye from start to finish with your own two in order to satisfy your incredulity of the process, yet you'll accept the claim that a person came back from the dead based on nothing but a book of magic stories written by unverifiable sources two-thousand years ago. This hypocrisy is unmatched.
I mean, if we just said, 'God did evolution with his inexplicable god-powers,' instead of, ya know, learning about it via evidence and observation, would that make it more palatable to you? Because, that seems to be a perfectly satisfactory explaination for all your other beliefs.
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