(November 6, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 2:36 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: It would be nice if the US got off it's ass and at least did something, anything to start implementing stricter gun control.

If it came down to it I wouldn't like it if they came after mine, but I wouldn't resist either.

What if the law was single-shot guns/rifles only?

Ya mean out law everything but single round? I'd be OK with that. 

Taking them over my semi autos wouldn't make much sense.

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(November 6, 2017 at 2:00 pm)Whateverist Wrote: We should arm everyone and require they shoot anyone with a gun.  Wait..

I'm just waiting for "See, it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun.".

Does taking down after the act really mean that much?

(November 6, 2017 at 1:48 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Type in atheist shooter in Google. Interesting what pops up.

Why are you using the death of innocent people to push your viewpoint instead of discussing the death of the innocent people?  
You've been doing this sort of thing more and more.  


You want everyone to view you as one of the asshole extremists?  Look how many kudo's or shut ups even atheists who post this sort of shit get from the rest of us.  I'm not singling you out.  But goddamn, what a complete hypocrite it turns out you are.  

My ignore list is growing pretty fast lately.

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(November 6, 2017 at 2:44 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: What if the law was single-shot guns/rifles only?

Ya mean out law everything but single round? I'd be OK with that. 

Taking them over my semi autos wouldn't make much sense.

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(November 6, 2017 at 2:00 pm)Whateverist Wrote: We should arm everyone and require they shoot anyone with a gun.  Wait..

I'm just waiting for "See, it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun.".

Does taking down after the act really mean that much?

To be fair he might have gone somewhere else and continued his shooting spree.  It's not something I think I've ever heard of happening with other mass shooters, but he still had guns and ammo, so possible.  But also, taking out the bad guy happens like one in a thousand times.  There are mass shootings constantly, and this is the first one we've heard of in recent memory where this happened.

I'm sure it will get touted by the wrong people though, and used to further their messed up ideologies, though.

(November 6, 2017 at 2:47 pm)Aroura Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 1:48 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Type in atheist shooter in Google. Interesting what pops up.

Why are you using the death of innocent people to push your viewpoint instead of discussing the death of the innocent people?  
You've been doing this sort of thing more and more.  


You want everyone to view you as one of the asshole extremists?  Look how many kudo's or shut ups even atheists who post this sort of shit get from the rest of us.  I'm not singling you out.  But goddamn, what a complete hypocrite it turns out you are.  

My ignore list is growing pretty fast lately.

I heard a woman from the church/town on CNN state that the shooter was the "devil". That does not sound atheist.

(November 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 1:48 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Type in atheist shooter in Google. Interesting what pops up.

What, like your dick? Keep stirring that pot, NS.

I predicted that shit yesterday. Christians have no trouble lying.

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(November 6, 2017 at 2:52 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 2:47 pm)Aroura Wrote: Why are you using the death of innocent people to push your viewpoint instead of discussing the death of the innocent people?  
You've been doing this sort of thing more and more.  


You want everyone to view you as one of the asshole extremists?  Look how many kudo's or shut ups even atheists who post this sort of shit get from the rest of us.  I'm not singling you out.  But goddamn, what a complete hypocrite it turns out you are.  

My ignore list is growing pretty fast lately.

I heard a woman from the church/town on CNN state that the shooter was the "devil". That does not sound atheist.

Maybe he doesn't believe in himself?

(November 6, 2017 at 2:43 pm)Aroura Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 2:13 pm)wallym Wrote: The details of propaganda are for the unwashed masses to cry about on social media.  The crux of the issue is found in the objective of the propaganda.  Which is what I said in my first post.  NRA recognizes the rational endpoint of the opposition is no guns.  Their objective is to make sure it stays as far from that as possible.  What they are doing is how you do that.  

I've been lucky enough to watch the gay rights movement unfold as I've grown up.  It was masterful.  When I was young, not sure when, I remember Kurt Loder on MTv promoting 'alternative lifestyle.'  They weren't bad people, they were just different.  And that's all they wanted.   Then for it to be an accepted lifestyle.  Then it was civil unions.  We don't want marriage, just our own thing.  Then it was marriage.  Then you had to view their marriage as positive.  Then you had to bake a cake for their marriage by law, and now if you tried to call being gay an alternative lifestyle, you'd be a bigot.

The way they kept moving the goalpost as the young people they targeted grew older and took up a larger portion of the social defining demographic was genius.  And good on them.  But I'm sure when it all started someone said "Next thing you know, they'll be trying to get married."  And someone else said "Slippery slope fallacy!"

Wow, moving the goalpost to equality.  What demons.

I'm not sure why you're concluding that I don't support equality, or think their tactics were inappropriate.  

It was an insanely smart plan.  I assume it was a plan. They did in 15 years what most oppressed groups can't do in 100.  And plenty of other marginalized folks have been able to ride their coattails as well.

(November 6, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: What if the law was single-shot guns/rifles only?

There are some really nice takedown breach loaders on the market.  3 interchangeable barrels-  .22, 270, 20g. You can get a bigger barrel on the rifle and shotty, but for the most part I don't see the point. Hex key hammer safeties, trigger lock, and locking hardcase included. Stocks are hollowed out for your kit. Bando on the stock to carry rounds. Fuckers are nearly indestructable, and the failure rate is so low as to be nonexistent.

(November 6, 2017 at 2:41 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:

(November 6, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Type in Religious Shitwit and you'll get this asshole..... along with Chad.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/conserv...-get-shot/




Too bad he wasn't on the receiving end.

Wow.

Comments in that same vein here today garnered rebukes.

Funny Christians can have such different and opposing interpretations of the same event, but atheists comments on it, even when echoed by some actual Christians are always wrong.

As if I gave a shit what they think.

(November 6, 2017 at 12:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:how would it look like if the west was Islamic instead? I imagine a very different media, a very different views, a very different headlines, a very different "standard" for terrorism.

Oh yeah... tell me about it.

No. This happened in the west already in our dimension:



In terms of propaganda: what would the world wake up to?
They'll be an "SLIP -Secular state in London and Paris-. You would wake up day and night on the news of the "Islamic apocalyptic wars for oil", and the "Islamic racism against the kuffar". You will seek to immigrate to Mekka, and take the Irani nationality because it makes your career options become better.
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Nah, I'd stay right here, thanks.

So with your history you'd be no better.

The only solution is no invisible men in the sky.... not yours.  And even then, people will find something to fight about.