(November 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 4:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Alpha and Matilda are both being insulting, imho. Just gonna through that out there.

Nice virtue signalling. 

Call it what you want. I try to be fair and consistent. If I wasn't, I'd be just like the people im calling out. And personally I don't feel comfortable with myself if I do that.

(November 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Are you also going to leave in place the innuendo that the depression is fallout from their choice of atheism, god's revenge?

You're inferring something that wasn't implied. Last time I checked, the stats showed no significant difference in rates of depression between theists and atheists. I'm just replying to the bullshit claim that theism is detrimental to mental development.

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(November 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm)alpha male Wrote: Nice virtue signalling. 

Call it what you want. 

Actually I watered it down quite a bit. 

(November 9, 2017 at 4:54 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 4:44 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: So what?  Do you have a point, or are you merely trying to be insulting?

Sure - proof is in the pudding. Or, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Basically, I see a lot of fucked up people among the atheists here. I generally don't say anything except with Brian. Over in life sciences there's threads on the first page on social anxiety and Aspergers. Note that I don't post in those. But when one of you comes out and calls theists immature or maladjusted, that opens things up.

So, you're trying to somehow turn actual mental illness into a tu quoque towards people who are insulting towards your religion?

LMFAO.

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(November 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Are you also going to leave in place the innuendo that the depression is fallout from their choice of atheism, god's revenge?

You're inferring something that wasn't implied. Last time I checked, the stats showed no significant difference in rates of depression between theists and atheists. I'm just replying to the bullshit claim that theism is detrimental to mental development.

So, why not say that from the outset instead of "Oh yeah? Well, you guys seem to be legitimately miserable/sick/damaged, so neener neener?"

I mean, yeah, the OP was insulting in some regards. Instead of bitching about it, why not take the high road? That's what Christians are supposed to do, right?

(November 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 1:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Oh, why don't you and Alpha go cry somewhere, ya snowflakes.

I actually wasn't referring to atheist behavior on the boards. Kernel incorrectly inferred that. I was referring to the miserable personal lives that so many of you have.

As apposed to your crappy existence do you mean? Having to endlessly tickle Gods balls for him.

You really do have delusions of grandeur don't you, even your user name suggests it.

This thread makes me sad

(November 9, 2017 at 4:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I won't lie - I find other people's reliance on a 'greater power' to be, at best, strange.  It doesn't make sense to me at all, on a fundamental level.

I find that interesting. One of the advantages I find in the religious mindset is precisely their apprehension of an interested and sometimes helpful higher power. Of course you did say "reliance on" and wherever it amounts to that, what utility there may be otherwise is more than offset by the self abnegation. But god belief is not required to enjoy this advantage.

(November 9, 2017 at 4:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I don't 'get' worship.  At all.

Neither do I. In terms of respecting/appreciating the gifts of the unconscious mind, fine. But I see no healthy way to construe that as 'worship'.

(November 9, 2017 at 4:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Regarding Matilda, I don't agree with everything she wrote.  That said, especially in the US, many theists use their religion as a way to punish others, or to deflect blame.  That's where her talk about responsibility comes in.  I mean, even in this section, we have Christians admitting that what happens in the next world is more important to them than in this one.  And to an atheist, that's 100% crazy pants.

Yup.

(November 9, 2017 at 4:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Moreover, the story of Christ is immoral to many of us.  The sacrifice of another in order to offer us a path to salvation because of something inherent in us (sin) which is woefully defined, and, really, shouldn't be something such a powerful being should be affected by.  If I've done anything wrong, then let me be judged, let me pay restitution.

Yeah, but only if you take it literally. Just because they do, I don't think it makes sense for us to foist literalism on what is better taken as metaphor.

I'm just going to put this out here wondering if anyone will read it. Title:

Judgments About Fact and Fiction by Children From Religious and Nonreligious Backgrounds

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.11...7qcUsKH2rk

Shorter version/discussion in this article:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/fantasy-or-r...ers-295684

(November 9, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Aegon Wrote: This thread makes me sad

Really.

This thread is making me laugh my head off.

(November 9, 2017 at 7:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I'm just going to put this out here wondering if anyone will read it. Title:

Judgments About Fact and Fiction by Children From Religious and Nonreligious Backgrounds

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.11...7qcUsKH2rk

Shorter version/discussion in this article:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/fantasy-or-r...ers-295684

I read the shortened Medicaldaily article,

Interesting twist in the final result.

(November 9, 2017 at 8:43 am)Mathilda Wrote:  They are conditioned to obey authority and to have faith rather than to ask why. This means that they do not have to accept the responsibility of their actions because they were only following orders.
The child grows up dependent upon a system that tells them how to act, think, believe and what to value or hate. 

This would be a fairly accurate description of society in general.
So hands up, anyone here who has found every theist they ever met to be childish.
Doesn't ring true to me.