(November 18, 2017 at 5:05 pm)Cod Wrote:

(November 18, 2017 at 6:07 am)alpha male Wrote: See bolded. God isn't a man, so your point falls apart.

Isn't he? He sloshed about in the womb for 40 weeks didn't he?

So Jesus had no penis. Good to know.

Unless... wait a minute.... are you saying that Jesus is a pre-op transgender woman?

(November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Tell us my friend, is using genocide, killing and torturing when one can cure as well as kill, good character traits; be it a man or a God that does the killing instead of curing?  

I think curing is the best moral position yet God kills.

Should a God who kills instead of curing be adored, or should such a God be hated?

Regards
DL

  God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
 
 How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
 God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
 GC

This shows exactly why I consider religion dangerous.  "Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make." shows just this kind of scary pseudo-morality. God could change people's minds, show that he exists, but no. People don't matter in god's eyes, at least the one's who won't bow and scrape to him.  And, I suppose, that I can kill my kids with impunity, as I have created them. 

This is nothing but a religion of fear and ignorance.  Tailor-made for mindless people like you.

(November 21, 2017 at 1:47 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote:   God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
 
 How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
 God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
 GC

This shows exactly why I consider religion dangerous.  "Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make." shows just this kind of scary pseudo-morality. God could change people's minds, show that he exists, but no. People don't matter in god's eyes, at least the one's who won't bow and scrape to him.  And, I suppose, that I can kill my kids with impunity, as I have created them. 

This is nothing but a religion of fear and ignorance.  Tailor-made for mindless people like you.

Using the argument you could do any horrible thing and then say "it was gods will" and that would make it ok.

(November 20, 2017 at 6:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote:   God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
 
 How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
 God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
 GC

If you build a house just to set it on fire when the roof starts leaking, people are going to give you the stinkeye. And you'll be hauled off to jail for killing your kids. Where do people get this idea that it's totally fine to simply destroy whatever you create, just because it's not working correctly. Especially children and animals, or whatever else we have that we create, yet still have minds of their own.

 I did not say anything about kids and animals, you're trying to add untruth to my post. Burning down your house because it's roof leaks would be stupid and your analogy doesn't even come close to a representation of why God did what He did.

GC

(November 20, 2017 at 6:09 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(November 18, 2017 at 5:05 pm)Cod Wrote: Isn't he? He sloshed about in the womb for 40 weeks didn't he?

So Jesus had no penis. Good to know.

Unless... wait a minute.... are you saying that Jesus is a pre-op transgender woman?

Yeah he did have one, it was just really small  

(November 22, 2017 at 5:19 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(November 20, 2017 at 6:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If you build a house just to set it on fire when the roof starts leaking, people are going to give you the stinkeye. And you'll be hauled off to jail for killing your kids. Where do people get this idea that it's totally fine to simply destroy whatever you create, just because it's not working correctly. Especially children and animals, or whatever else we have that we create, yet still have minds of their own.

 I did not say anything about kids and animals, you're trying to add untruth to my post. Burning down your house because it's roof leaks would be stupid and your analogy doesn't even come close to a representation of why God did what He did.

GC

Well you were talking about creations and ownership. Children, animals, and houses are examples of things we create, or living things that we own. 

Didn't god kick Adam and Eve out into a world he cursed because they disobeyed him one time? I used the analogy of setting a house on fire because the roof leaks as an example of the kind of extreme solution to a minor problem that your god inflicts from time to time. Or disproportionate retribution. I'd like to think the example is pretty accurate. Can I get additional feedback from someone?

(November 22, 2017 at 5:19 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(November 20, 2017 at 6:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If you build a house just to set it on fire when the roof starts leaking, people are going to give you the stinkeye. And you'll be hauled off to jail for killing your kids. Where do people get this idea that it's totally fine to simply destroy whatever you create, just because it's not working correctly. Especially children and animals, or whatever else we have that we create, yet still have minds of their own.

 I did not say anything about kids and animals, you're trying to add untruth to my post. Burning down your house because it's roof leaks would be stupid and your analogy doesn't even come close to a representation of why God did what He did.

GC

"Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make."

So I can kill my kids and be morally right with god, as I created them.

Gotcha.

(November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Tell us my friend, is using genocide, killing and torturing when one can cure as well as kill, good character traits; be it a man or a God that does the killing instead of curing?  

I think curing is the best moral position yet God kills.

Should a God who kills instead of curing be adored, or should such a God be hated?

Regards
DL

  God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
 
 How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
 God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
 GC

The part in bold seems to be indicative of limited, win-lose (binary) thinking.  IMO, it would seem reasonable to be open to the possibility that the middle ground between any two choices can effectively reshape the various positions that people will take on any given issue, provided that such issues are approached with an open mind.  Hence, given the part in bold, since your deity is believed to be the ultimate source of love and goodness, then does it make sense that a more open-minded/mutually beneficial approach toward any given issue is in greater accordance with this being's loving nature than a close-minded, win-lose approach? Thanks.

Well first off, what immoral things has God done?

There's a reason for the word procreate. You don't create your children.