(December 21, 2017 at 6:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: Huggy is a YEC? Damn!

Well, if he puts any credence into the article he posted a link to, he thinks the universe is infinite (ie, has always been). So if he's a creationist he'd be an OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEC.

I have to say it is unbecoming of science to gloat over hitting so soft a target as upstaging any mere god.

We live in a world where a mighty universe creator who calls himself mighty God, prince of peace, everlasting father.

A god who hides behind twisted torturous theology in an attempt to make it look exactly as he does not exist at all !. Instead he relies on the ramblings of stale tired philosophy despite urging his followers to go spread his glorious mighty name.

The god who shakes mountains and makes seas roar hides behind excuses, fallen prayers , and the vilification of the creation and created he supposedly loves. Such a sorry tired god.

And we like gamblers chasing this sad god, maybe the next prayer, the next miracle, sometimes things are good and give god the glory, till the next death, the next child abused, the next earthquake, the next murder, the casino of religion always wins, sucking us in asking more and more.

We never consider that a god who needs so many excuses, so many explanations even for his existence is actually exactly the same as no god at all.

possibletarian, just now.

(December 21, 2017 at 6:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: Huggy is a YEC? Damn!

How do you figure?

So you choose to deflect instead of answering the question?

(December 21, 2017 at 8:12 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 21, 2017 at 6:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: Huggy is a YEC? Damn!

How do you figure?

So you choose to deflect instead of answering the question?

I don't think Iggy was trying to deflect. He's seriously wondering if you're a YEC. BTW, are you?

(December 21, 2017 at 8:15 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(December 21, 2017 at 8:12 am)Huggy74 Wrote: How do you figure?

So you choose to deflect instead of answering the question?

I don't think Iggy was trying to deflect. He's seriously wondering if you're a YEC. BTW, are you?

No.

Thank gawd for that much.

(December 21, 2017 at 3:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: Why cannot science objectively find just one example out of trillions, where we can say, yeah, that thing right there, it shouldn't happen like that but it does, repeatedly.

Because when something is observed repeatedly, it's moved out of the "shouldn't happen like that" category and into the happens like that, we just don't know why yet category.

(December 21, 2017 at 4:19 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: It's reasonable to accept that conclusion based on the available evidence.

It still has that "new universe" smell too . . .

Our present local universe is c.14 by old from the Planck time, as measure by the Cosmic Background Microwave radiation.

What that says about the cosmos, possible multiverses etc is very interesting, and is where these eternal models make sense.