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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 6:18 am
(January 5, 2018 at 1:39 am)Godscreated Wrote: Christians are people who know they need Jesus and what He has offered and then accepts Him and the gift. After that we try to live the best we know how for Him, not for others. When we live for Him others become the beneficiaries of our relationship with Christ. I know the Christians here will understand this and the atheist will scoff and go on living a life that is hell bound.
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Very christian of you.
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 9:18 am
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Christian simply means that you believe Jesus is the son of God who lived as a human among us and died and resurrected for us.
... anything beyond that just depends on denomination.
As for the New Testament stuff, very very few Christian denominations follow a completely literal interpretation of every single thing in the bible. Even New Testament. Christianity is not based on a word for word literal interpretation of every single thing written in the bible.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 9:56 am
(January 5, 2018 at 9:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Christian simply means that you believe Jesus is the son of God who lived as a human among us and died and resurrected for us.
... anything beyond that just depends on denomination.
As for the New Testament stuff, very very few Christian denominations follow a completely literal interpretation of every single thing in the bible. Even New Testament. Christianity is not based on a word for word literal interpretation of every single thing written in the bible.
Yeah, cafeteria christians. I said that earlier.
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 10:26 am
I don't think it's possible to actually follow all those rules. Didn't Jesus say you won't make it if you don't though?
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 11:04 am
(January 5, 2018 at 10:26 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: I don't think it's possible to actually follow all those rules. Didn't Jesus say you won't make it if you don't though?
No, Jesus didn't say that, he didn't say anything that we have a first person report on.
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 11:11 am
(January 5, 2018 at 9:56 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 5, 2018 at 9:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Christian simply means that you believe Jesus is the son of God who lived as a human among us and died and resurrected for us.
... anything beyond that just depends on denomination.
As for the New Testament stuff, very very few Christian denominations follow a completely literal interpretation of every single thing in the bible. Even New Testament. Christianity is not based on a word for word literal interpretation of every single thing written in the bible.
Yeah, cafeteria christians. I said that earlier.
Thats exactly my point though. They are specifically NOT cafeteria christian, because christianity itself is not based in a word for word literal interpretation of the bible. If you think it is, you have a very very poor understanding of Christianity.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 11:19 am
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(January 5, 2018 at 1:39 am)Godscreated Wrote: Christians are people who know they need Jesus and what He has offered and then accepts Him and the gift. After that we try to live the best we know how for Him, not for others. When we live for Him others become the beneficiaries of our relationship with Christ. I know the Christians here will understand this and the atheist will scoff and go on living a life that is hell bound.
GC
That's kinda how I see it. Thanks for telling me I am going to Hell though. People love when you say that to them.
(January 5, 2018 at 9:56 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 5, 2018 at 9:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Christian simply means that you believe Jesus is the son of God who lived as a human among us and died and resurrected for us.
... anything beyond that just depends on denomination.
As for the New Testament stuff, very very few Christian denominations follow a completely literal interpretation of every single thing in the bible. Even New Testament. Christianity is not based on a word for word literal interpretation of every single thing written in the bible.
Yeah, cafeteria christians. I said that earlier.
I don't think it's such a black and white thing.
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 11:54 am
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(January 5, 2018 at 11:11 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 5, 2018 at 9:56 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, cafeteria christians. I said that earlier.
Thats exactly my point though. They are specifically NOT cafeteria christian, because christianity itself is not based in a word for word literal interpretation of the bible. If you think it is, you have a very very poor understanding of Christianity.
OR you just don't like the idea.
(January 5, 2018 at 11:19 am)Mermaid Wrote: (January 5, 2018 at 1:39 am)Godscreated Wrote: Christians are people who know they need Jesus and what He has offered and then accepts Him and the gift. After that we try to live the best we know how for Him, not for others. When we live for Him others become the beneficiaries of our relationship with Christ. I know the Christians here will understand this and the atheist will scoff and go on living a life that is hell bound.
GC
That's kinda how I see it. Thanks for telling me I am going to Hell though. People love when you say that to them.
(January 5, 2018 at 9:56 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, cafeteria christians. I said that earlier.
I don't think it's such a black and white thing.
Do they follow every word in the NT? Or do they pick and choose what they want to follow? This is not a complex question. They can't do both.
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 11:55 am
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(January 3, 2018 at 8:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I don't mean someone who claims to be a Christian and can't tell you what that means. I mean someone who lives exactly like the NT says they should live.
Christian is a title we received once we are judged. Meaning in this life there are only followers of Christ.
That said the "christian model" you refer to in the bible is of one steeped in sin who is a slave to evil yet continually seeks redemption and salvation, and receives it from God because he is a follower of Christ.
You morons have confused righteous acts with sanctified living. Meaning according to the bible we do not have to live "the perfect christian life" rather the oppsite we are "christians/followers of Christ because we can not live up to that model, and through Christ we are santified so we do not have to be perfect people. We can come as we are and find salvation, rather than trying to be this moral model that does not exist.
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RE: Has anyone met a Christian?
January 5, 2018 at 11:59 am
(January 3, 2018 at 8:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I don't mean someone who claims to be a Christian and can't tell you what that means. I mean someone who lives exactly like the NT says they should live.
I wouldn't know. I don't know if the NT can rightly be interpreted as recommending a way to live, and neither do I care.
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