Posts: 22970
Threads: 26
Joined: February 2, 2010
Reputation:
106
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 4:31 pm)J a c k Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 4:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: And the counterpoint being made is that a person has the right to change their mind about consent at any time. This is why nudity is not consent. It certainly is not a Rubicon. Thump, but she did change her mind, and when she finally made it clear, he didn’t force her. At least that’s what I’m understanding.
My understanding is that she voiced her discomfort (which would indicate a withdrawal of consent) long before he let up his behavior. I don't think many here are considering that much.
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Quote:Can't we all just acknowledge that we agree that based on the babe article Aziz was acting like a selfish fuck boy, but was not guilty of sexual assault? We all agree on that, right? Why are we arguing?
Why would we agree on something we don't agree on .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 12806
Threads: 158
Joined: February 13, 2010
Reputation:
111
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 4:44 pm by Shell B.)
(January 17, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 4:27 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, fuck off. That response implies that you think that is the case. "You said it" is a common response when you think someone has told the truth, but you don't want to outright say it as well because it's offensive. (Just in case you don't know that, because sometimes I wonder if English is your second language). As in, "I think I look fat in this dress." "You said it, not me." It's a shift of blame for the statement you believe is fact off you, so you can't be blamed for saying she's fat, even though you think it. Therefore, you actually think Tibs raped me because he didn't ask me if I wanted sex after I took my clothes off. That you think that makes you a non-starter in this debate. Your position is absurd.
I'd venture to guess that you haven't asked a woman if she wants sex every time she's gotten naked in front of you. Therefore, by your implied definition, you are a rapist. No it does not . It means you interpret my response as such . And you can guess but your guess would be wrong . I always ask . DO YOU WANT TO FUCK . it does not matter if she's nude or not .
Um, no. That response is accepted in the English language to mean exactly what I said. It's the accepted definition, which I provided for you below. So, either you don't fucking understand English or you actually think Tibs is a rapist because he didn't ask me if I wanted to have sex after I got naked. Feel free to admit you didn't know the meaning of what you said or admit that you meant it in the flippant tone in which you delivered, but still are too much of a pussy to outright say what you mean.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dict...ou-said-it
(January 17, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Established that there will be nudity not always . Sometimes they want to keep their clothes on . In that instances i put mine back on too . And we just watch TV . Hell i even ask if their comfortable with the idea. And at any point they wish to undress then by all means .
Wait, you get naked before you establish whether they want to be naked? Gross. Maybe just keep your clothes on.
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:47 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 4:48 pm by Amarok.)
I don't need to admit shit . Because i never called Tib a rapist . You asserted that i implied it . So fuck right off putting words in my mouth .
Quote:Wait, you get naked before you establish whether they want to be naked? Gross. Maybe just keep your clothes on.
No i have my clothes on first 
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 12806
Threads: 158
Joined: February 13, 2010
Reputation:
111
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:48 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm by Shell B.)
You put them in your own mouth, dumbass. You said, "You said it, not me." I gave you the definition of the phrase. You're still denying it's what it means. You can't make up meanings for things or pretend you didn't mean things by their given definition and expect to have a clear conversation. You didn't even imply it. You said it. I used the term implied to be polite in case you really weren't a native English speaker.
Posts: 14932
Threads: 684
Joined: August 25, 2008
Reputation:
143
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm
I find the newly discovered fact that Tiz routinely has multiple girls round, gets naked with them, and watches movies, to be an infinitely more interesting discussion that the current one.
Posts: 12806
Threads: 158
Joined: February 13, 2010
Reputation:
111
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:50 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I find the newly discovered fact that Tiz routinely has multiple girls round, gets naked with them, and watches movies, to be an infinitely more interesting discussion that the current one.
If by interesting, you mean retch-inducing.
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:51 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 4:51 pm by Amarok.)
No i did NOT . You were the one who accused me of saying Tibs raped you . I simply pointed out you said it. At no point didn't i call or imply Tibs was a rapist .
(January 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I find the newly discovered fact that Tiz routinely has multiple girls round, gets naked with them, and watches movies, to be an infinitely more interesting discussion that the current one. It is interesting i grant you that 
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 15452
Threads: 147
Joined: June 15, 2015
Reputation:
88
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:51 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Can't we all just acknowledge that we agree that based on the babe article Aziz was acting like a selfish fuck boy, but was not guilty of sexual assault? We all agree on that, right? Why are we arguing?
Why would we agree on something we don't agree on .
So you're saying that based on the story Aziz is definitely guilty of sexual assault?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 4:52 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 4:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I find the newly discovered fact that Tiz routinely has multiple girls round, gets naked with them, and watches movies, to be an infinitely more interesting discussion that the current one.
If by interesting, you mean retch-inducing. Too each there own
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
|
