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Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
(January 21, 2018 at 5:32 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(January 21, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Thena323 Wrote: I don't need to establish that there was a victim in this particular case to know that victim-blaming has a very real and devastating impact on those who've been sexually assaulted, and that it keeps people from coming forward; Perhaps even someone who lurks, or posts here.

Nor is establishing the details of the story necessary to know that you and your buds have been heavily engaging in victim-blaming rhetoric since this threads inception.

It's not as though you good folks maintained a neutral position of stating saying "I don't know" and simply walking away. Just look at thread title and OP, for Pete's sake.
Several of the ladies of this forum, who come down harshly on victim blaming attitudes and rhetoric in the past, suddenly have no qualms with slinging shit at the accuser as a matter of going with the tide; Acknowledging that you all thought his behavior was that "pushy", "aggressive", "creepy" and "out of line", but assigning the preponderance of responsibility in prevention to the accuser. Why she didn't did do this? Why she didn't do that? What does she really want? What did she do wrong that MADE him behave in this way?

And all throughout, you lamented the possible loss of his "promising career", without even entertaining the notion that HE could be the one responsible for making that happen.

I...never used the words ‘aggressive’, or ‘out of line.’  I read Tiz’s excerpts three times, then I went back and read the original babe article twice.  Then I read it out loud to my husband because I was interested in what he thought of the whole thing.  So, save your accusations of bias.  Victim blaming is real.  And devastating.  It is my personal opinion, after pouring over her account multiple times, and following along 80 pages of debate in this thread, that this woman was not a victim of anything.  *shrugs*  I don’t know that there is anything I can say to quell your tirade at this point.

Don't bother and don't waste your time worrying about it. She wants to bitch because there are people here who disagree with her.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
(January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Joods Wrote: Screw you. It isn't about likes or kudos. Your bullshit is getting tiresome.

Bullshit? 
Oh...you mean the way I get down for what I stand for, even if I'm not particularly well-received or liked for it.

That's called courage of conviction, dear.Wink

Google it.
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
(January 21, 2018 at 5:45 pm)Thena323 Wrote:
(January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Joods Wrote: Screw you. It isn't about likes or kudos. Your bullshit is getting tiresome.

Bullshit? 
Oh...you mean the way I get down for what I stand for, even if I'm not particularly well-received or liked for it.

That's called courage of conviction, dear.Wink

Google it.
There's a difference between standing up for what you believe in and being a fucking bitch to people you know are actual victims simply because they don't agree with you. And you, ma'am are doing the latter.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
(January 21, 2018 at 6:14 pm)SaStrike Wrote: Unbump

REbump. We’re so getting shutdown.
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
(January 21, 2018 at 6:14 pm)SaStrike Wrote: Unbump

Heart Sorry that some seem to want to keep the shit stirred.

My comment wasn't aimed at you Shell, just so you know.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
Meh. I’m notorious for finding shit amusing enough to stir vigorously.
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
(January 21, 2018 at 5:45 pm)Thena323 Wrote:
(January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Joods Wrote: Screw you. It isn't about likes or kudos. Your bullshit is getting tiresome.

Bullshit? 
Oh...you mean the way I get down for what I stand for, even if I'm not particularly well-received or liked for it.

That's called courage of conviction, dear.Wink

Google it.

You can have the opinion that Grace was indeed sexually assaulted based on her story, without accusing the other women here of victim blaming. Shell, Joods, and Jack have all been victims of sexual assault themselves... and I know that LFC has at least had a very personal experience with it. Accusimg them of blaiming the victim just because they dont think Grace's story depicts an assault is extremely out of line.

(January 21, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Joods Wrote:
(January 21, 2018 at 5:45 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Bullshit? 
Oh...you mean the way I get down for what I stand for, even if I'm not particularly well-received or liked for it.

That's called courage of conviction, dear.Wink

Google it.
There's a difference between standing up for what you believe in and being a fucking bitch to people you know are actual victims simply because they don't agree with you. And you, ma'am are doing the latter.

Bingo.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
Careful CL or you might find yourself being accused of having some sort of religious agenda.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.



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