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Poll: Were you consistent concerning the number of lives you saved?
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I was consistent: Same # of people lived/died in both experiments.
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3 17.65%
I was inconsistent: 5 died in one experiment, 1 died in the other.
82.35%
14 82.35%
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Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
#71
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
I thought there was one human and one toddler?  Wink
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#72
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
(January 24, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The ethics of tubby people, mark my words..will one day be the most serious issue facing mankind.  I -already- see a handful of starving african families every time I look down to piss.  

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#73
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
Personally I think some of the difference lies in the way in which the people are going to die. In the trolley example, if the 5 wretched mortals die, it will be because a trolley ran over them. If the 1 wretched mortal dies, it will also be by a trolley running over him. In the organs example, the 5 people will die of organ failure, because for whatever reason they are already unhealthy and have not been able to become healthy in time to live. But the 1 person, if he/she were to die, would be a healthy person, (assuming that whatever minor problem he/she's come to the hospital for is not going to kill him/her), who died because she was deliberately made unhealthy. 
That, personally, is why I find the consequences of saving 5 people to be quite different in the two situations. So yep, inconsistent. 



PS: I really want to know other people's views but it's a long thread and I don't have time. I hate having to study for exams ugh. Sad Blank
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#74
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
Re the OP: Not me, I'm a wing-it kind of guy. Let tomorrow take care of itself. Get in the habit of making good choices everyday and then it won't be necessary to carry around a decision tree to predetermine your response in every eventuality. I refuse to believe I'm smarter the day I pick the best moral decision tree than I will be in the future. In fact, if I keep up the habit of choosing well every day, I might just get better at it.
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#75
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
I'mma yell "GTFO the tracks!" and then dial 911, because some shit's about to go down.
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#76
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
I'd just like to remind you all that a trolley running over five people instead of one would get far more hits on youtube.
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#77
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
(January 25, 2018 at 3:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: I'd just like to remind you all that a trolley running over five people instead of one would get far more hits on youtube.

Yes, but would it get FIVE times more?  Let's think of the views per casualty for maximum efficiency, please.
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#78
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
(January 25, 2018 at 3:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: I'd just like to remind you all that a trolley running over five people instead of one would get far more hits on youtube.

It'd get far more hits on the track, come to think of it.
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#79
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
(January 25, 2018 at 3:42 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(January 25, 2018 at 3:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: I'd just like to remind you all that a trolley running over five people instead of one would get far more hits on youtube.

Yes, but would it get FIVE times more?  Let's think of the views per casualty for maximum efficiency, please.

The only way to be sure is to record the death of the five people, then switch the points to the first person and wait for the next trolley to come along.
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#80
RE: Trolley Problem/Consistency in Ethics
(January 25, 2018 at 3:42 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(January 25, 2018 at 3:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: I'd just like to remind you all that a trolley running over five people instead of one would get far more hits on youtube.

Yes, but would it get FIVE times more?  Let's think of the views per casualty for maximum efficiency, please.

Definitely more.

Particularly number four. #4 will blow your mind!

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