(February 18, 2018 at 10:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Honestly?  I think the doxing rule here is too strict.  A public post made on a publicly viewable FB page shouldn't be considered doxing.  It's obviously not information the person wants to keep private.  If they did, they'd make their page/post only viewable to friends.  Or, better yet, not post something that could be considered inflammatory on the internet at all.  For my money, there's no legitimate expectation of privacy if you're writing stupid shit for the world to see.

Regarding the harassment aspect, I can see it, but I think it's well within a person's rights to take a community leader to task for promoting regressive, tone deaf rhetoric which tastelessly attempts to use the deaths of innocent kids as a way to drive up church recruitment numbers.  The guy said it, so he should own up to it.

That said, there's no way to limit damage if these images are spread.  The internet is global, and people will do stupid shit under the shield of anonymity.  Ideally, drfuzzy would/will tell this guy exactly what kind of asshole he is personally.

So, I see nothing wrong with tying the quote to the post to show that, yes, it's real.  I do think the potential of unintended consequences should stop it from being spread.

Just my $0.02.

Love ya, Kev.     I can see both sides. I don't know if I ever will be able to be able to tell my cousin - who does actually have a smart, caring, goofy and lovable side - that my take on the fundamentalist beliefs of that side of the family should be classified as mental illness.     To post that god is deliberately killing american children because we don't require all public schoolchildren to recite the Lord's Prayer anymore . . . 
Yeah, I know I'm going all Lil' Rik with the emojis.  I blame it on the flu medicine.
My cousin is also a Trump supporter, a gun nut, and a corporal punishment advocate.  He used to head up a group called WhippingsRUs.  It's not online.  This is the . . . culture that I am so grateful to have escaped from, regardless of the cost.  And yes, I still think that views like his need to go viral.  These groups either need to be dragged into the light of the 21st century or forced to live in their own off-grid camps a la Jonestown. The political clout they currently wield in the US of A is more than a little ulcer-making.  The Theocrats are trying to hijack the government.  The WORLD needs to see who they are and what they really think.

But.  I don't want gangs to burn down his house.  Church, maybe, but not house.   

(February 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Tell your cousin that prayers are allowed in schools. It just can't be compulsory.

And in truth, the praying is often compulsory down south. I live in North Carolina and my son has to sit through a prayer every single day.

(February 19, 2018 at 1:45 am)drfuzzy Wrote:

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(February 18, 2018 at 10:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Honestly?  I think the doxing rule here is too strict.  A public post made on a publicly viewable FB page shouldn't be considered doxing.  It's obviously not information the person wants to keep private.  If they did, they'd make their page/post only viewable to friends.  Or, better yet, not post something that could be considered inflammatory on the internet at all.  For my money, there's no legitimate expectation of privacy if you're writing stupid shit for the world to see.

Regarding the harassment aspect, I can see it, but I think it's well within a person's rights to take a community leader to task for promoting regressive, tone deaf rhetoric which tastelessly attempts to use the deaths of innocent kids as a way to drive up church recruitment numbers.  The guy said it, so he should own up to it.

That said, there's no way to limit damage if these images are spread.  The internet is global, and people will do stupid shit under the shield of anonymity.  Ideally, drfuzzy would/will tell this guy exactly what kind of asshole he is personally.

So, I see nothing wrong with tying the quote to the post to show that, yes, it's real.  I do think the potential of unintended consequences should stop it from being spread.

Just my $0.02.

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Quote:Love ay, Kev.     I can see both sides. I don't know if I ever will be able to be able to tell my cousin - who does actually have a smart, caring, goofy and lovable side - that my take on the fundamentalist beliefs of that side of the family should be classified as mental illness.     To post that god is deliberately killing american children because we don't require all public schoolchildren to recite the Lord's Prayer anymore . . . 
Yeah, I know I'm going all Lil' Rik with the emojis.  I blame it on the flu medicine.
My cousin is also a Trump supporter, a gun nut, and a corporal punishment advocate.  He used to head up a group called WhippingsRUs.  It's not online.  This is the . . . culture that I am so grateful to have escaped from, regardless of the cost.  And yes, I still think that views like his need to go viral.  These groups either need to be dragged into the light of the 21st century or forced to live in their own off-grid camps a la Jonestown. The political clout they currently wield in the US of A is more than a little ulcer-making.  The Theocrats are trying to hijack the government.  The WORLD needs to see who they are and what they really think.

But.  I don't want gangs to burn down his house.  Church, maybe, but not house.    :roll eyes:

It's a federal crime to burn down a church.  Perps can get 20 years in a federal prison.  https://www.congress.gov/104/plaws/publ1...ubl155.pdf

You can do what you want but you might want to drop this subject and talk about something else, like snot.

(February 18, 2018 at 10:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Honestly?  I think the doxing rule here is too strict.  A public post made on a publicly viewable FB page shouldn't be considered doxing.  It's obviously not information the person wants to keep private.  If they did, they'd make their page/post only viewable to friends.  Or, better yet, not post something that could be considered inflammatory on the internet at all.  For my money, there's no legitimate expectation of privacy if you're writing stupid shit for the world to see.

Regarding the harassment aspect, I can see it, but I think it's well within a person's rights to take a community leader to task for promoting regressive, tone deaf rhetoric which tastelessly attempts to use the deaths of innocent kids as a way to drive up church recruitment numbers.  The guy said it, so he should own up to it.

That said, there's no way to limit damage if these images are spread.  The internet is global, and people will do stupid shit under the shield of anonymity.  Ideally, drfuzzy would/will tell this guy exactly what kind of asshole he is personally.

So, I see nothing wrong with tying the quote to the post to show that, yes, it's real.  I do think the potential of unintended consequences should stop it from being spread.

Just my $0.02.

The fact that the original FB post was public is irrelevant. Unless you had personal knowledge and took the time to perv his FB page, you wouldn't have even known the post existed. But now his information has been given out to the www via this thread, so the potential for anything to happen, is possible. It only takes one angry, bat crap crazy person to flip out and cause harm to another. Has the tragedy in Florida taught us nothing about what mentally unstable people are capable of? 

To trivialize the doxing rule over this is bullshit. As I said earlier - if it happened to someone else here - there would have been an uproar.  I think we are only fooling ourselves if we think that calling attention to someone's personally identifiable information is an okay thing. It's not.

(February 18, 2018 at 10:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Honestly?  I think the doxing rule here is too strict.  A public post made on a publicly viewable FB page shouldn't be considered doxing.

It’s not considered doxing

(February 19, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(February 19, 2018 at 1:45 am)drfuzzy Wrote: [hide]

It's a federal crime to burn down a church.  Perps can get 20 years in a federal prison.  https://www.congress.gov/104/plaws/publ1...ubl155.pdf

You can do what you want but you might want to drop this subject and talk about something else, like snot.

Jeez it was a joke . . .

(February 19, 2018 at 7:09 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(February 19, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: It's a federal crime to burn down a church.  Perps can get 20 years in a federal prison.  https://www.congress.gov/104/plaws/publ1...ubl155.pdf

You can do what you want but you might want to drop this subject and talk about something else, like snot.

Jeez it was a joke . . .

That's what the guy said after he got busted for walking into the bank with a note that told the teller to give him all of the money.