If telling a lie is all it takes to get a lawyer in deep shit, the nation's ruling class is toast.

This whole thing reminds me of something that happened once, what was it? Oh yeah....

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/russi...nton-boris

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, the CIA, FBI, and NSA released their much-anticipated report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. It states that Putin had a “clear preference” for Trump and personally ordered operations designed to get him elected. Russia’s intervention, the report goes on, was the “boldest” in its “longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order.”

The outcry over Russian machinations comes with a heavy dose of irony considering that, twenty years ago, the United States launched an even bolder interference campaign to ensure Boris Yeltsin’s reelection.

The 1990s were one of the most tumultuous and tragic periods in modern Russian history. In 1996, a chaotic mix of Russian schemes — from fraud and profiteering to old-fashioned conspiracy — worked to keep Yeltsin in the driver’s seat. Throughout, American players silently watched, facilitated, and at times, actively helped construct the Faustian bargain between Yeltsin and his oligarch supporters. This pact would have ruinous effects on Russia’s democracy and economy in the decades to come.

Indeed, the Americans supported Yeltsin in body and spirit, much to his and his backers’ delight. You don’t need to delve into conspiracy theories to see the United States’s hand, especially if you evaluate it according to the criteria used to assess Russia’s involvement in the American election last year.

That said, it’s striking that American influence in Russia was so openly acknowledged. The public record shows clear points of direct American coordination, collusion, and action in Yeltsin’s favor. One can only guess what the two nations’ archival records would reveal.

You know, Cap'n.  One thing I have to say for Wally.  At least his links work.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/russi...nton-boris

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(February 21, 2018 at 5:16 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: This whole thing reminds me of something that happened once, what was it? Oh yeah....

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/russi...nton-boris

Quote:
, the CIA, FBI, and NSA released their much-anticipated report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. It states that Putin had a “clear preference” for Trump and personally ordered operations designed to get him elected. Russia’s intervention, the report goes on, was the “boldest” in its “longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order.”

The outcry over Russian machinations comes with a heavy dose of irony considering that, twenty years ago, the United States launched an even bolder interference campaign to ensure Boris Yeltsin’s reelection.

The 1990s were one of the most tumultuous and tragic periods in modern Russian history. In 1996, a chaotic mix of Russian schemes — from fraud and profiteering to old-fashioned conspiracy — worked to keep Yeltsin in the driver’s seat. Throughout, American players silently watched, facilitated, and at times, actively helped construct the Faustian bargain between Yeltsin and his oligarch supporters. This pact would have ruinous effects on Russia’s democracy and economy in the decades to come.

Indeed, the Americans supported Yeltsin in body and spirit, much to his and his backers’ delight. You don’t need to delve into conspiracy theories to see the United States’s hand, especially if you evaluate it according to the criteria used to assess Russia’s involvement in the American election last year.

That said, it’s striking that American influence in Russia was so openly acknowledged. The public record shows clear points of direct American coordination, collusion, and action in Yeltsin’s favor. One can only guess what the two nations’ archival records would reveal.

Yes, it is well known American influence brought down Russia during the Cold War.  Therefore it follows that we should Welcome the opportunity to surrender to russia to make things even.

(February 21, 2018 at 7:09 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(February 21, 2018 at 5:16 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: This whole thing reminds me of something that happened once, what was it? Oh yeah....

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/russi...nton-boris

Yes, it is well known American influence brought down Russia during the Cold War.  Therefore it follows that we should Welcome the opportunity to surrender to russia to make things even.

What did you just read? That's not about bringing down the undemocratic Soviet union. It's about interfering in Russia's election in 1996.