Only always. 

(without comparing our actual times how could you imagine that you would always lose to me...honestly?....even comparing them, do you think that's all there is...if you and I trained equally, you could never beat me because I have a dick.....? Tell me it;s true, I'd love to believe it, lol.)

(March 1, 2018 at 5:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: @ Huggs... for clarity.......are you positing that females who take T have an advantage over "natural males".....?

Nowhere did I state that, I said a female taking steroids has an advantage over females that don't.

The point is, she's allowed this exception because shes trans, it's against the rules to take testosterone for anyone else.

(March 1, 2018 at 5:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Only always. 

Don't need to win them all, just need to know how to not lose!

(March 1, 2018 at 5:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 5:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: @ Huggs... for clarity.......are you positing that females who take T have an advantage over "natural males".....?

Nowhere did I state that, I said a female taking steroids has an advantage over females that don't.

The point is, she's allowed this exception because shes trans, it's against the rules to take testosterone for anyone else.

No shit, hence anti-doping regs...and that leads us to the reality of the situation.  M-f trans are not taking t or dope..its the opposite. They exhibit lower levels relative to their cis-gendered peers

Next, ya fuckin moron.

(March 1, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 4:40 pm)shadow Wrote: Yeah, maybe you won't beat female olympians. I have no doubt I could outrun a weak or out of shape man easily. But once we both train competitively, I'm going to lose. That's the whole point - it's not about averages. It's about an extremely high level of competition where everyone is using every advantage they have.

Not against me you wont, lol.  I destroyed my knees in service (fucking de-stroyed..as in, blew them apart).  I cant take a step without shooting pain.  IDK, if the game was running until you actually die maybe I'd win..just because I don't like to lose ( but hey, I don';t know you..maybe you're fuckin crazier than I am).......but once upon a time I warmed up with 20 mile laps...today...I can't make it to the mailbox.

That's awful. Do you mean you actually got your knees blown apart by, like, explosives?

No... I think I'm misunderstanding you.

As far as fairness goes, treating a transition from one gender to another as cheating seems a bit silly to me. As if anyone would go to such lengths.

It seems much fairer to me to say they are allowed to compete under their new gender than to say they can't compete at all. It would be humiliating to make them compete against a gender they no longer have.

(March 1, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 5:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Nowhere did I state that, I said a female taking steroids has an advantage over females that don't.

The point is, she's allowed this exception because shes trans, it's against the rules to take testosterone for anyone else.

No shit, hence anti-doping regs...and that leads us to the reality of the situation.  M-f trans are not taking t or dope..its the opposite.  They exhibit lower levels relative to their cis-gendered peers

Next, ya fuckin moron.

*emphasis mine*

Lol

Well it's clear you're trolling at this point (at least I hope), because no one can possibly be this stupid.

Fucked up...but..yeah..actually.  I stepped on what was likely a 30 year old concussion trap.   Wasn't enough to kill me...but it was enough to blow my legs out from under me and render me unconscious.  I feel asleep a track star and woke up a cripple, lol.

Sucked. Still sucks. Will never not suck.

Otoh...I'm alive, right? I'll never beat you now except through sheer will, and whether or not I was faster than you are then...well....how fast were you, then, anyway?

(March 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 3:38 pm)Shell B Wrote: Can we all agree that ultra marathoners are insane people and shouldn't be counted as humans?

Even when I was in shape... I never liked running; just for the sake of running.  This is nuts to me!

24-hour run

A special form of ultra marathon is a 24-hour run. Here, the participants have to run as far as possible within 24 hours. The male world record is 303.506 km and was set by Yiannis Kouros and Mami Kudo holds the female record of 252.205 km.

I used to watch sports documentaries while I was jogging on my treadmill to motivate me. I saw a lot of great ones, but one that stuck with me was about this woman who was running a ridiculously long distance across Canada and only stopping to eat. Her feet were bleeding, she was crying and shaking. She just kept running. I don't know if I admire that or think she's putting being the best on way too high of a pedestal. I don't know.

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(March 1, 2018 at 4:24 pm)SaStrike Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Shell B Wrote: Don't be a fuckstick. I've done the Googling already. It's not like I'd just make it up to feel like I'm better at something. Being smarter than you all is good enough for me.

Here's just one of many sources. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4495100/

Note: you shouldn't say something will most likely happen if you have literally no idea.

A what stick? Yesss finally some actual proof showing females are better athletically than males. All I was asking for.

So we can conclude males are mostly (not totally) more athletic than females.

I wasn't ever arguing that women are better at sports. I'm arguing that woman are equally athletic as a concept. A woman isn't less athletic than her male counterpart because he would beat her in a competition. Athleticism is a state of being. Example, say I'm in my peak physical condition and so is the dude to my right. He could beat me in a race because he's naturally stronger, but I'm still just as athletic. It's semantics, but there you have it. Also, unless all you motherfuckers can do a handstand, eight-angle pose, etc. I'm more athletic than you, I guess. Booya.

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(March 1, 2018 at 4:38 pm)SaStrike Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Shell B Wrote: Don't be a fuckstick. I've done the Googling already. It's not like I'd just make it up to feel like I'm better at something. Being smarter than you all is good enough for me.

Here's just one of many sources. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4495100/

Note: you shouldn't say something will most likely happen if you have literally no idea.

I took the longest race mentioned in the link (the Manhattan one) and found that a male currently holds the record for fastest time

(too scared to check the other two)

Did you read the dang scientific paper and the scientist's conclusion? Brah.

(March 1, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Even when I was in shape... I never liked running; just for the sake of running.  This is nuts to me!

24-hour run

A special form of ultra marathon is a 24-hour run. Here, the participants have to run as far as possible within 24 hours. The male world record is 303.506 km and was set by Yiannis Kouros and Mami Kudo holds the female record of 252.205 km.

I used to watch sports documentaries while I was jogging on my treadmill to motivate me. I saw a lot of great ones, but one that stuck with me was about this woman who was running a ridiculously long distance across Canada and only stopping to eat. Her feet were bleeding, she was crying and shaking. She just kept running. I don't know if I admire that or think she's putting being the best on way too high of a pedestal. I don't know.

I think I have mixed feelings on that as well... On one hand my first reaction is "that's just stupid", but then on the other, I do admire the discipline and drive to accomplish what you set out to. Kind of puts me to shame.... I've come close a couple of times for an Iron Butt on the motorcycle. Thought about just setting out and doing an unofficial one... that's about as close to an endurance sport that I come now days.