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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 3:26 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 3:22 pm)A Theist Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I really wish I knew.
Clinton wasn't a "piss poor candidate". She won the nomination. I voted for her happily. I think she would have been an extremely good president. She lost to Donald Trump and she lost the support of the dems' once largest and once loyal voting base, the Blue collar workers in the Rust Belt and Coal States. She even lost Wisconsin. That speaks volumes against Hillary as a candidate and the dems' campaign strategy of identity politics.
No, she did not lose.
Don't confuse the constitutional intent of the electoral college to act as a check on mob rule by vote, as being the the same as winning the popular vote. SHE still won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
I'd only agree that her mistake was not hitting those swing states in the last days. But she still got more votes than Trump nationwide.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 3:35 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 3:22 pm)A Theist Wrote: She lost to Donald Trump and she lost the support of the dems' once largest and once loyal voting base, the Blue collar workers in the Rust Belt and Coal States. She even lost Wisconsin. That speaks volumes against Hillary as a candidate and the dems' campaign strategy of identity politics.
No, she did not lose.
Don't confuse the constitutional intent of the electoral college to act as a check on mob rule by vote, as being the the same as winning the popular vote. SHE still won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
I'd only agree that her mistake was not hitting those swing states in the last days. But she still got more votes than Trump nationwide. Yeah but she's not the one who's sitting in the White House now...and if it was Trump who won the popular vote and Hillary winning the electoral vote democrats wouldn't be saying a word about it.
That's where she should have laid off the identity politics campaign and reached out more to those blue collar swing States.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 3:45 pm
Quote:She lost to Donald Trump and she lost the support of the dems' once largest and once loyal voting base, the Blue collar workers in the Rust Belt and Coal States. She even lost Wisconsin. That speaks volumes against Hillary as a candidate and the dems' campaign strategy of identity politics.
Keep preaching that bullshit narrative
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 3:53 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 3:25 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I really wish I knew.
Clinton wasn't a "piss poor candidate". She won the nomination. I voted for her happily. I think she would have been an extremely good president.
and she does come off as possessing a greater sense of entitlement than the society permits women. (That ceiling really is pernicious.)
An excellent point.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 4:31 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 3:35 pm)A Theist Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, she did not lose.
Don't confuse the constitutional intent of the electoral college to act as a check on mob rule by vote, as being the the same as winning the popular vote. SHE still won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
I'd only agree that her mistake was not hitting those swing states in the last days. But she still got more votes than Trump nationwide. Yeah but she's not the one who's sitting in the White House now...and if it was Trump who won the popular vote and Hillary winning the electoral vote democrats wouldn't be saying a word about it.
That's where she should have laid off the identity politics campaign and reached out more to those blue collar swing States.
I love how you brag about a fuckface asshole who uses WW2 Germany scapegoating tactics to win. Yep, when you cant win on substance you use Jerry Springer tactics.
So all you are saying is winning is the the only important thing.
Your morals suck asshole!
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 4:38 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 3:35 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah but she's not the one who's sitting in the White House now...and if it was Trump who won the popular vote and Hillary winning the electoral vote democrats wouldn't be saying a word about it.
That's where she should have laid off the identity politics campaign and reached out more to those blue collar swing States.
I love how you brag about a fuckface asshole who uses WW2 Germany scapegoating tactics to win. Yep, when you cant win on substance you use Jerry Springer tactics.
So all you are saying is winning is the the only important thing.
Your morals suck asshole!
For real. This isn't a football game.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 4:50 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 3:35 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah but she's not the one who's sitting in the White House now...and if it was Trump who won the popular vote and Hillary winning the electoral vote democrats wouldn't be saying a word about it.
That's where she should have laid off the identity politics campaign and reached out more to those blue collar swing States.
I love how you brag about a fuckface asshole who uses WW2 Germany scapegoating tactics to win. Yep, when you cant win on substance you use Jerry Springer tactics.
So all you are saying is winning is the the only important thing.
Your morals suck asshole! Ahole has morals?
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 4:50 pm
Thanks for the answers people. And who is this Bernie Sanders guy and how does he fit in?
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 5:44 pm
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(March 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm)SaStrike Wrote: Donald Trump is president. How'd that happen?
Hillary had to rig the election to beat Bernie, and then sucked so hard in the general she couldn't beat a guy that shouldn't have even made it past the primary. Also people want progressivism. Not corporatism.
Bernie Sanders was the guy who almost won the primary, despite it being rigged, and who would be our president now if the establishment wasn't bought off by the rich.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 4, 2018 at 5:44 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm)SaStrike Wrote: Donald Trump is president. How'd that happen?
Hillary had to rig the election to beat Bernie, and then sucked so hard in the general she couldn't beat a guy that shouldn't have even made it past the primary. Also people want progressivism. Not corporatism.
She won the popular election by almost 3 million votes.
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