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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 11:25 am
(March 15, 2018 at 11:15 am)Mathilda Wrote: (March 15, 2018 at 10:53 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You countered me with what exactly? Disagreeing with what I said is not a counter, you must present facts that support your point of view.
So you have no way of arguing with the possibility that during the time the German language evolved there may well have been different religions that died out and were replaced with something entirely new, or imported from another country.
I seriously cannot believe that you are demanding that I provide evidence that a language and a god are not the same thing.
Literally no one has equated a language with a god, what I said is that as the language changed so has the name for the gods, hence why Odin is not Odin's original name.
Once again, present evidence.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 11:31 am
(March 15, 2018 at 11:25 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Literally no one has equated a language with a god, what I said is that as the language changed so has the name for the gods, hence why Odin is not Odin's original name.
Once again, present evidence.
You are the one claiming that as the language evolved over time in different countries and cultures that there weren't different religions that died out or were replaced with something entirely new, or imported from another country.
Once again, present evidence.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 11:41 am
(March 15, 2018 at 11:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: (March 15, 2018 at 11:25 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Literally no one has equated a language with a god, what I said is that as the language changed so has the name for the gods, hence why Odin is not Odin's original name.
Once again, present evidence.
You are the one claiming that as the language evolved over time in different countries and cultures that there weren't different religions that died out or were replaced with something entirely new, or imported from another country.
Once again, present evidence.
I have already presented evidence, you however have not presented one source that backs up your position.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 11:45 am
(March 15, 2018 at 11:41 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 15, 2018 at 11:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: You are the one claiming that as the language evolved over time in different countries and cultures that there weren't different religions that died out or were replaced with something entirely new, or imported from another country.
Once again, present evidence.
I have already presented evidence, you however have not presented one source that backs up your position.
Your interpretation doesn't correspond well to the well-accepted facts and the evidence observed.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 11:53 am
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(March 15, 2018 at 11:25 am)Huggy74 Wrote: what I said is that as the language changed so has the name for the gods, hence why Odin is not Odin's original name.
(March 15, 2018 at 10:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I traced the German language back to Akkadian (the language used in ancient Babylon), which is an east Semitic language
The official religion of England is the Church of England. English evolved from German. So Jesus was Odin.
Evidence that you'll find acceptable:
http://www.conservapedia.com/United_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 11:59 am
(March 15, 2018 at 11:45 am)Grandizer Wrote: (March 15, 2018 at 11:41 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I have already presented evidence, you however have not presented one source that backs up your position.
Your interpretation doesn't correspond well to the well-accepted facts and the evidence observed.
It's a fact that people migrated out from Mesopotamia, it's also a fact that the German language also evolved from the language in ancient Mesopotamia. So unless it's your posistion that the people said "hey guy's how about we ditch our religion and make up a new one when we get to where we are going", rather than the religion evolving since it's based on ORAL tradition.
Then post your sources, how many times must I state this.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm
(March 15, 2018 at 11:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote: It's a fact that people migrated out from Mesopotamia, it's also a fact that the German language also evolved from the language in ancient Mesopotamia.
It's also a fact that Germans migrated to England.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 12:04 pm
(March 15, 2018 at 11:53 am)Mathilda Wrote: (March 15, 2018 at 11:25 am)Huggy74 Wrote: what I said is that as the language changed so has the name for the gods, hence why Odin is not Odin's original name.
(March 15, 2018 at 10:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I traced the German language back to Akkadian (the language used in ancient Babylon), which is an east Semitic language
The official religion of England is the Church of England. English evolved from German. So Jesus was Odin.
Evidence that you'll find acceptable:
http://www.conservapedia.com/United_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English
No offense, but that's got to be the dumbest argument I've seen.
If Jesus is the Messiah, and the concept of the Messiah predates the book of Genesis (Job was written before Genesis), how did you come to that conclusion?
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 12:13 pm
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(March 15, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: No offense, but that's got to be the dumbest argument I've seen.
I used your very same argument.
So unless it's your position that the people said "hey guy's how about we ditch our religion and make up a new one when we get to where we are going", rather than the religion evolving since it's based on ORAL tradition.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
March 15, 2018 at 12:20 pm
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(March 15, 2018 at 11:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 15, 2018 at 11:45 am)Grandizer Wrote: Your interpretation doesn't correspond well to the well-accepted facts and the evidence observed.
It's a fact that people migrated out from Mesopotamia, it's also a fact that the German language also evolved from the language in ancient Mesopotamia. So unless it's your posistion that the people said "hey guy's how about we ditch our religion and make up a new one when we get to where we are going", rather than the religion evolving since it's based on ORAL tradition.
Then post your sources, how many times must I state this.
Here's your "logic":
P1. People migrated out from Mesopotamia.
P2. The German language evolved from the language in ancient Mesopotamia.
C. Germanic religion, being based on oral tradition, evolved from some Mesopotamian religion.
Even if we were to accept the truth of the premises (and I question the accuracy of the "facts" you stated), do you not see how the conclusion only weakly follows from the premises (and I'm being generous here)? It could logically be that the Germanic people nevertheless came up with a fairly new religion over time in the new land. I don't see any conclusive evidence for your position, so until you present it, consider me very skeptical.
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