Disproving the christian (and muslim) god

[Huggy Bear]

If only you had the same level of skepticism in regards to abiogenesis...

Nice tactic. You can't present the evidence I've requested, so you jump to a totally unrelated topic, just to distract from your failure.

You said you'd only accept conclusive evidence, yet you clearly accept abiogenesis which there is no conclusive evidence for... so do you only accept conclusive evidence or don't you?

The evidence I presented is far more plausible than any case made for abiogenesis... Just sayin.

[Nay_Sayer]

Nice tactic. You can't present the evidence I've requested, so you jump to a totally unrelated topic, just to distract from your failure.

You said you'd only accept conclusive evidence, yet you clearly accept abiogenesis which there is no conclusive evidence for... so do you only accept conclusive evidence or don't you?

The evidence I presented is far more plausible than any case made for abiogenesis... Just sayin.

To steal a movie line; Nothing you have said in your long, incoherent, rambling history of posting would come even remotely close to anything that could be considered evidence, Everyone who ever read anything you ever typed is dumber for having done so, I award you no points and may FSM have mercy on your soul.

[Aegon]

Yes? Lol. It's an historical fact that Judaism and the stories that made it are younger than all of those mythologies, by over one thousand years. Gilgamesh was written between 2000 and 2100 BC, while the earliest estimate of when the Torah was written is around 1300 BC. Akkadian mythology ripped off the ones before it too. The Ras Shamra tablets are dated 6000 BC, and Ugaritic and Hebrew share very similar language and literary forms. That's how these stories work. And the Abrahamic religions are no different.

To be honest it feels bizarre to me to have to argue this. Any historian (or even undergraduate history student) studying near eastern history or ancient studies has seen how the earlier mythologies were a major source of the material in Jewish mythology. If you don't believe me, we live in the age of information, use Google Scholar or something. I wouldn't tell you to do this if there wouldn't be results. But I am operating off of what I remember for the several month period I learned about these things. And I ain't got time to try to convince you of anything, it doesn't really impact me. I just HAD to point out the irony of you accepting their influence on Nordic religion but not your own.

Must I remind you that the book of Job predates the Torah? Job was not a Jew.

Yet it still doesn't predate any of the mythology I mentioned. How does that counter anything I've said? The similarities are evident in Job as well. Hell, if the Book of Job was written around the same time (yet still after) as the myths I discussed that's more evidence in my favor.

[GrandizerII]

Nice tactic. You can't present the evidence I've requested, so you jump to a totally unrelated topic, just to distract from your failure.

You said you'd only accept conclusive evidence, yet you clearly accept abiogenesis which there is no conclusive evidence for... so do you only accept conclusive evidence or don't you?

Well, I don't have any other reasonable option, in this case.

The evidence I presented is far more plausible than any case made for abiogenesis... Just sayin.

To be clear, you presented us with your interpretations of what you read on Wikipedia. And my argument is that your interpretations are way off.

[Huggy Bear]

You said you'd only accept conclusive evidence, yet you clearly accept abiogenesis which there is no conclusive evidence for... so do you only accept conclusive evidence or don't you?

Well, I don't have any other reasonable option, in this case.

The evidence I presented is far more plausible than any case made for abiogenesis... Just sayin.

To be clear, you presented us with your interpretations of what you read on Wikipedia. And my argument is that your interpretations are way off.

*emphasis mine*

And my answer to that was for you to provide sources to back up you argument, not provide your own interpretation.

Also, I interpreted nothing, I showed how the German language evolved from Akkadian, that is not interpretation, that is fact. As the language evolved so would the names of the gods, that is not interpretation that is fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin
Odin was known in Old English as Wōden, in Old Saxon as Wōdan, and in Old High German as Wuotan or Wōtan, all stemming from the reconstructed Proto-Germanic theonym *wōđanaz.

Do you think the name Jesus is the same in Aramaic?

[GrandizerII]

Well, I don't have any other reasonable option, in this case.


To be clear, you presented us with your interpretations of what you read on Wikipedia. And my argument is that your interpretations are way off.

*emphasis mine*

And my answer to that was for you to provide sources to back up you argument, not provide your own interpretation.

Also, I interpreted nothing, I showed how the German language evolved from Akkadian, that is not interpretation, that is fact. As the language evolved so would the names of the gods, that is not interpretation that is fact.

Even if I were to concede (for the sake of argument) that the German language evolved from Akkadian, the logic doesn't mandate that the Germanic people continue to adhere to more primitive gods from Mesopotamian mythologies/religions after a long period of time. For that, we really do need evidence. And what you're presenting isn't facts, but interpretations/opinions catering to your theological needs.

And you know what else evolves? Conceptions of deities. And as a result, newer deities that are overall dissimilar to prior deities crop up, but that serve newer purposes and desires. So your argument as it is isn't sufficient enough to demonstrate effectively the flow from your premises to the conclusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin
Odin was known in Old English as Wōden, in Old Saxon as Wōdan, and in Old High German as Wuotan or Wōtan, all stemming from the reconstructed Proto-Germanic theonym *wōđanaz.

Do you think the name Jesus is the same in Aramaic?

What are you trying to argue now here, dude? That Odin is Jesus?

[The Grand Nudger]

Baldur would be a better comp. Slain son of the allfather, everybodies fave....killed by loki in an act of trickery or deceit.....or...you know, for the lulz. How was he supposed to know that the prissy bitch would die-die? Is he his brothers keeper? Amusingly enough.........loki is a putative agrarian god.