(April 6, 2018 at 11:05 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(April 6, 2018 at 10:48 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Nowhere in that article did it say that plants have consciousness, lol.  Nothing described by that article had anything to do with consciousness.  You’re a weird little bird, Ricky.

FOOL.






Who else can register a distress call other than the consciousness considering that plants do not have a brain?  

lol I dunno, Ricky.  Like...tons of other living things that react and respond to stimuli, but that are NOT conscious.  If the article you linked to was demonstrating that plants are conscious, why didn’t they use that word anywhere in its content?

I decided to take Rik's combined knowledge of evolution, covert it to a liquid and pour myself a drink.[1]



[1]Drink is 99% water

(April 6, 2018 at 11:05 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(April 6, 2018 at 10:48 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Nowhere in that article did it say that plants have consciousness, lol.  Nothing described by that article had anything to do with consciousness.  You’re a weird little bird, Ricky.

Who else can register a distress call other than the consciousness considering that plants do not have a brain?  

That you are ignorant of possible alternatives only demonstrates that you're ignorant. Your ignorant incredulity is dismissed for the worthless crap it is.

"They found that when these plants are attacked by tobacco hornworm caterpillars, Manduca sexta, the caterpillars' saliva causes a chemical change in the GLV compounds the plants had produced. These modified compounds then attract predatory "true bugs," Geocoris, which prey on hornworm eggs and young larvae." (Science)

No consciousness needed in the loop.

Plants not having a centralized brain does not mean their response is not biological. Or that the biology is not were these responses come from . So this proves fuck all for your Dualist fever dreams.

(April 6, 2018 at 11:06 am)robvalue Wrote: I thought of it, I thought of everything because I've had infinite past lives to think about things. I just keep forgetting it all every time I die. What a silly system.

Nothing to do with forgetting Rob.

The most logical reason that we do not know about previous lives is that if we knew about them our present life would be a total misery.
Just imagine if in the previous life you were involved in criminal activity.
That would make think and think in a negative way and you could not relax and be positive preventing therefore any progress.
Also the other way around wouldn't be any good.
Suppose that in the previous life you did a lot of good.
Now in this life you would feel satisfy so you wouldn't keep on going much further.

To me is obvious that the mastermind of the universe make sure that we do not remember our past in the good or the bad.  
It just make a lot of sense.

Nothing to do with forgetting, just made to forget, lol.  Did you even think of that?

(April 6, 2018 at 11:19 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 6, 2018 at 11:05 am)Little Rik Wrote: FOOL.






Who else can register a distress call other than the consciousness considering that plants do not have a brain?  

lol I dunno, Ricky.  Like...tons of other living things that react and respond to stimuli, but that are NOT conscious.  If the article you linked to was demonstrating that plants are conscious, why didn’t they use that word anywhere in its content?

Obviously you do not pay too much attention to what you read in the artcle.

Read here woman...............it say.................Clearly, plants can communicate..........and then it say............There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten.............and then it say............Trees in a forest, for instance, can warn their relatives of insect attacks........and then...........The scientist learned that the mature trees "communicated" to the network to share nutrients through their root systems to feed nearby seedlings until they were tall enough to take in light for themselves..............

Now you tell me how on earth plants are able to communicate without something that can register all this?
Can't you understand that the only thing that is able to do this is the consciousness?
Are you such an idiot?

Your computer communicates with the server, too.  How many dogs do you reckon I'd have to kick to get reborn as a PC?  More or less than a plant? Is it the same number of dogs as I'd have to kick to be reborn a Mac?

(April 7, 2018 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(April 6, 2018 at 11:19 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: lol I dunno, Ricky.  Like...tons of other living things that react and respond to stimuli, but that are NOT conscious.  If the article you linked to was demonstrating that plants are conscious, why didn’t they use that word anywhere in its content?

Obviously you do not pay too much attention to what you read in the artcle.

Read here woman...............it say.................Clearly, plants can communicate..........and then it say............There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten.............and then it say............Trees in a forest, for instance, can warn their relatives of insect attacks........and then...........The scientist learned that the mature trees "communicated" to the network to share nutrients through their root systems to feed nearby seedlings until they were tall enough to take in light for themselves..............

Now you tell me how on earth plants are able to communicate without something that can register all this?
Can't you understand that the only thing that is able to do this is the consciousness?
Are you such an idiot?

That you don’t have a proper understanding of evolution by natural selection, or consciousness, is no one’s problem but your own, buddy.  I remember now why I don’t normally respond to you.  You’re an idiot.

(April 6, 2018 at 12:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(April 6, 2018 at 11:05 am)Little Rik Wrote: Who else can register a distress call other than the consciousness considering that plants do not have a brain?  

That you are ignorant of possible alternatives only demonstrates that you're ignorant.  Your ignorant incredulity is dismissed for the worthless crap it is.

"They found that when these plants are attacked by tobacco hornworm caterpillars, Manduca sexta, the caterpillars' saliva causes a chemical change in the GLV compounds the plants had produced. These modified compounds then attract predatory "true bugs," Geocoris, which prey on hornworm eggs and young larvae." (Science)

No consciousness needed in the loop.

Wrong once again yog.




Atheism and materialism go hand in hand but atheists forget that the matter like everything else in this universe is made of vibrations.

http://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/conte...ration.pdf

Vibrations are alive with a degree that vary from matter to the most alive entity in the universe.
Being alive clearly means that consciousness is there so all your BS that chemical reactions cause things to happen is just a load of steaming dung.  

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(April 7, 2018 at 10:15 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 7, 2018 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: Obviously you do not pay too much attention to what you read in the artcle.

Read here woman...............it say.................Clearly, plants can communicate..........and then it say............There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten.............and then it say............Trees in a forest, for instance, can warn their relatives of insect attacks........and then...........The scientist learned that the mature trees "communicated" to the network to share nutrients through their root systems to feed nearby seedlings until they were tall enough to take in light for themselves..............

Now you tell me how on earth plants are able to communicate without something that can register all this?
Can't you understand that the only thing that is able to do this is the consciousness?
Are you such an idiot?

That you don’t have a proper understanding of evolution by natural selection, or consciousness, is no one’s problem but your own, buddy.  I remember now why I don’t normally respond to you.  You’re an idiot.

Sorry darl but I Caught YOU Red Handed with your dogma so what you suppose to do if you are honest?

Guess my dear.

Still don't get it?
Well LR is here to help you.
LR suggest that you should admit your error and apologize rather than talking more BS.  

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(April 7, 2018 at 9:58 am)Khemikal Wrote: Your computer communicates with the server, too.  How many dogs do you reckon I'd have to kick to get reborn as a PC?  More or less than a plant?  Is it the same number of dogs as I'd have to kick to be reborn a Mac?

More and more BS Khem.  

A human mind created all connections so a computer can communicates with the server.
Human mind also create a system so an engine communicate with the gear and all other component in the vehicle.
Matter is the low of the low as far as consciousness is concern so it can not possibly establish any relationship with anything else.
That communication will start with plants however but what's the point in explaining these things to someone who still believe in magic?