You didn't provide anything. You simply avoided. I seriously expect better.

(April 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: You didn't provide anything.  You simply avoided.  I seriously expect better.

I already told you it was a futile attempt for the reasons given.  Besides, I have not done any research into this because I have no interest in doing this research as I said before.  Therefore, I am not going to present any of these arguments paranormal researchers come up with. 

Edit: If you want though, I can, at least, present to you that link I presented before which has some arguments made by these researchers:

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/s..._fallacies

Then you arguing for a cause in which you have not yourself delved into searching is pure futility. It makes no sense.

(April 9, 2018 at 10:45 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Then you arguing for a cause in which you have not yourself delved into searching is pure futility.  It makes no sense.

I was arguing that perhaps both the skeptics and the paranormal researchers are just limiting themselves to their particular views and need to conduct full research rather than jumping to conclusions through their shortcut methods of reasoning and logic.  I am not arguing that the paranormal researchers had it right or that the skeptics had it right either.

(April 9, 2018 at 10:48 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote:

(April 9, 2018 at 10:45 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Then you arguing for a cause in which you have not yourself delved into searching is pure futility.  It makes no sense.

I was arguing that perhaps both the skeptics and the paranormal researchers are just limiting themselves to their particular views and need to conduct full research rather than jumping to conclusions through their shortcut methods of reasoning and logic.  I am not arguing that the paranormal researchers had it right or that the skeptics had it right either.

The only problem arises in accepting something based on zero skepticism.  Skeptics are correct in doubting, for acceptance of any concept is mere escapism from reality.

(April 9, 2018 at 10:52 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(April 9, 2018 at 10:48 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I was arguing that perhaps both the skeptics and the paranormal researchers are just limiting themselves to their particular views and need to conduct full research rather than jumping to conclusions through their shortcut methods of reasoning and logic.  I am not arguing that the paranormal researchers had it right or that the skeptics had it right either.

The only problem arises in accepting something based on zero skepticism.  Skeptics are correct in doubting, for acceptance of any concept is mere escapism from reality.

The goal is to be a real skeptic and not a pseudo skeptic.  Paranormal researchers claim that skeptics who dismiss the paranormal research as being woo are just pseudo skeptics (close minded skeptics).  Whether that is true or not I do not know.

You're make wild claims based on that which you don't know is true or not. Yes, you're certainly convincing me.

(April 9, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: You're make wild claims based on that which you don't know is true or not.  Yes, you're certainly convincing me.

I am just saying keep an open mind to it because it is a fact that human beings are close minded and limit themselves to their particular worldview.

(April 9, 2018 at 11:02 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote:

(April 9, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: You're make wild claims based on that which you don't know is true or not.  Yes, you're certainly convincing me.

I am just saying keep an open mind to it because it is a fact that human beings are close minded and limit themselves to their particular worldview.

There is a reasonable distinction between keeping an open mind and accepting just anything.  

Wouldn't you agree?

Kinda hard to be skeptical and jump to conclusions at the same time . . . .


Somebody want to Venn diagram that one for me ??