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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Every language has a term for willful ignorance, lol.

(May 6, 2018 at 1:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: Yeah, could be.  I didn't intend to be spiteful.

Have you ever considered that you may be doing other things, in these sorts of convos...that you don;t intend to do?

Things like.......discredit your faith, for example?

Let;s imagine a world, lol.  It;s a world just like this one in every respect, except one.  Now...suspend your disbelief for just a moment, and imagine a ridiculous world in which evolutionary biology was true, and intelligent design was false.   Otherwise, exactly the same.  Sun comes up, sun goes down.  Tide comes in, tide goes out....and jesus christ died on a cross for your sins.

What are the optics from heaven, if you can imagine yourself there, of a person down here.....disseminating intelligent design as an article of faith?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 1:07 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 1:06 am)Quick Wrote: That is because we live in the west where the christian faith is largely predicated and embodied in pretty much every social structure, so I guess I can see your point.

Yeah, could be.  I didn't intend to be spiteful.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 1:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: Every language has a term for willful ignorance, lol.

(May 6, 2018 at 1:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: Yeah, could be.  I didn't intend to be spiteful.

Have you ever considered that you may be doing other things, in these sorts of convos...that you don;t intend to do?

Things like.......discredit your faith, for example?

Let;s imagine a world, lol.  It;s a world just like this one in every respect, except one.  Now...suspend your disbelief for just a moment, and imagine a ridiculous world in which evolutionary biology was true, and intelligent design was false.   Otherwise, exactly the same.  Sun comes up, sun goes down.  Tide comes in, tide goes out....and jesus christ died on a cross for your sins.

What are the optics from heaven, if you can imagine yourself there, of a person down here.....disseminating intelligent design as an article of faith?

How so?  Just stating facts about DNA, the universe,...
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 1:14 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 1:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: Every language has a term for willful ignorance, lol.


Have you ever considered that you may be doing other things, in these sorts of convos...that you don;t intend to do?

Things like.......discredit your faith, for example?

Let;s imagine a world, lol.  It;s a world just like this one in every respect, except one.  Now...suspend your disbelief for just a moment, and imagine a ridiculous world in which evolutionary biology was true, and intelligent design was false.   Otherwise, exactly the same.  Sun comes up, sun goes down.  Tide comes in, tide goes out....and jesus christ died on a cross for your sins.

What are the optics from heaven, if you can imagine yourself there, of a person down here.....disseminating intelligent design as an article of faith?

How so?  Just stating facts about DNA, the universe,...

ID is a belief, not a fact.
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change, 
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence. 
~ Schiller - 'Psychological Types'
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 1:14 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 1:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: Every language has a term for willful ignorance, lol.


Have you ever considered that you may be doing other things, in these sorts of convos...that you don;t intend to do?

Things like.......discredit your faith, for example?

Let;s imagine a world, lol.  It;s a world just like this one in every respect, except one.  Now...suspend your disbelief for just a moment, and imagine a ridiculous world in which evolutionary biology was true, and intelligent design was false.   Otherwise, exactly the same.  Sun comes up, sun goes down.  Tide comes in, tide goes out....and jesus christ died on a cross for your sins.

What are the optics from heaven, if you can imagine yourself there, of a person down here.....disseminating intelligent design as an article of faith?

How so?  Just stating facts about DNA, the universe,...

Read it again, and slowly.  In this hypothetical world..you are here on earth disseminating intelligent design when it is not factual...in the sight of god. This approaches a relationship I could only call blasphemous.

Do you believe that you have the right to impose falsehood on christ? Do you believe that this is an important issue?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Look, OP, I really have no problem with you on a personal level, but when you come to a forum where I presume a lot of people believe themselves to be completely rational individuals and use a different measuring stick than they do for what can be proven, you are going to get beat up.

(May 6, 2018 at 1:05 am)Khemikal Wrote: Words come from the magic book, too.

I;m starting to wonder whether there;s anything unmiraculous in the entire universe to our afflicted friend.

Actually, I think this could be an interesting discussion topic. IMO either everything is miraculous or nothing is.
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and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Yeah, he intended to come here to teach us, not to have a discussion or learn anything.

Clearly all this has no relevance to Christianity anyway since it wasn't discovered until relatively recently. Christians already believed we've been magically engineered, and no matter what science showed up about us, they were going to take it as evidence.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 1:30 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, he intended to come here to teach us, not to have a discussion or learn anything.

Clearly all this has no relevance to Christianity anyway since it wasn't discovered until relatively recently. Christians already believed we've been magically engineered, and no matter what science showed up about us, they were going to take it as evidence.

No, he came here expecting to bowl us over with his "knowledge." I'll bet it's really burning his ass that we're laughing at him. Big Grin
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
He expects us to all instantly decide we are wrong, without ever considering for a second that he might be wrong. He could do with reading some real science by some real scientists instead of all this creationist spiel.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 5, 2018 at 11:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 5, 2018 at 11:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So what?  You think shannon info requires a god too. Something being complex -or- simple isn't a difference, to you...and because of this, one thing being simple and one thing being complex is no particular indication of anything. 

You butchered that one.

DNA contains an extremely sophisticated code!  Hence, it is designed.  Debate over, living systems have a Designer.

OMG! Did you just knock over the chess pieces and shit on the board? You are hilarious...
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