I don't want to 'win' this way. Furtherance and multiplication of religious error, while anti-God I'll concede, it still, does not = atheism.

Feels weird to type that on the actual eve of abortion becoming a sacrament . . . . .

Not only are theistical things going the 'wrong way', they are ACCELERATING the wrong way.

The churchy folks need a revival and spiritual awakening before it's too late for them to be saved from their mutated theism by atheism.

Edit: Changed my mind.

(May 12, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: At what age do children stop getting a free pass?  What's the biblical support for that?

I can give you the answer, depends on when they start thinking for themselves.

Modern catholics refer hell as the absence of god in one's life. My sister explained it to me like the Kelvin temperature scale. It's weird because hell is said to have high temperatures.

Well -.-; There isn't much to be said about such fantasies.

I don’t think I can speculate on the after life and who ends up where. Much of faith is a trust in things not seen, not known. Not knowable? If one follows the Bible, that is only so much of the story. The rest still comes down to faith and just from my view, it’s not for me to say who will end up where. I think it is a sticking point even among Christians as to how to argue that point.

What is your view in Muslims? What do you think about them as Christians?

(May 12, 2018 at 8:54 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is your view in Muslims? What do you think about them as Christians?

What do you want to know specifically? I have Muslim friends that I work with on my job. We all get along pretty well. We laugh and joke around together. We work together. No problems between us. Is that what you wanted to know, or did you have something else in mind?

Err, It's a bit of a long read as you would expect from The Vatican.

...The conclusion of this study is that there are theological and liturgical reasons to hope that infants who die without baptism may be saved and brought into eternal happiness, even if there is not an explicit teaching on this question found in Revelation...

...Rather, there are reasons to hope that God will save these infants precisely because it was not possible to do for them that what would have been most desirable— to baptize them in the faith of the Church and incorporate them visibly into the Body of Christ...

...It must be clearly acknowledged that the Church does not have sure knowledge about the salvation of unbaptised infants who die...

Hope? You can not be fucking serious!
One of the greatest causes of anguish in Catholic life and the church is unable to pronounce on it? Why can't the pope fit his holy Ex Catheter and ask God for some clarification?

Buy the way, if humans are given souls at the point of conception and all aborted foetuses go directly to heaven then heaven must be littered with trillions of Petri dishes, you know, given that 2/3 pregnancies self abort in the first week. Or does god have a large pond for them, it's all sooo confusing.
Catholicism; what's not to laugh at?

Souls are inspirated into human bodies upon successful birth.

This is not subject to argument or debate. Scripture is clear on this matter.

I should think all who've been affected by a stillborn or miscarriage would be profoundly relieved no eternal and/or Christian religious punishment of any sort accrues.

I'm shocked and appalled the Vatican statement did not offer solace in regards to this clear Biblical precept.

"This is not subject to argument or debate. Scripture is clear on this matter."

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Genesis 2:7