(May 13, 2018 at 3:18 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: 162 pages??

I'm glad I haven't read the whole thing.  It, like any ongoing creationist nonsense, is like a slow lobotomy.

I vastly underestimated the ops fishing abilities, His shtick has gotten him exactly the attention he wanted.

(May 13, 2018 at 3:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 3:25 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Only mad science.

Actually some brilliant scientists support it.  There are more scientists in the US that believe in a higher power than there are atheist scientists.

So you're now walking back your previous claim that most scientists are christian, without acknowledging how wrong you were. Well done you hypocritical piece of shit.

(May 13, 2018 at 1:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 5:51 am)Mathilda Wrote: How many times do we have to tell you that atheists generally don't believe this. Nor do they generally believe that natural processes are directed.

How is telling someone that they currently believe something that they don't and explaining why it's wrong supposed to convince them of anything?

It would be like to trying to convince you that the christian god does not exist by asserting that you believe that he is the son of Thor even though you don't and explaining why Thor couldn't exist. Can you see why this is not going to achieve anything?

So if you want to learn how to debate, first start by dropping the strawman arguments.

I have not used a straw man argument once.  On the contrary, I am faced with straw man, ridicule, spin, and every other dirty debate trick in the book in this thread.

That is a straight out lie. You never tire of telling us what it is that atheists believe when atheism is simply a lack of belief by definition. Have you no morals, or is lying for jebus somehow exempt?

(May 13, 2018 at 5:18 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 1:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I have not used a straw man argument once.  On the contrary, I am faced with straw man, ridicule, spin, and every other dirty debate trick in the book in this thread.

That is a straight out lie. You never tire of telling us what it is that atheists believe when atheism is simply a lack of belief by definition. Have you no morals, or is lying for jebus somehow exempt?

Oooh we have enough to start a list:

• Spammer
  
• Misogynist
  
• Liar
  

(May 13, 2018 at 5:46 pm)Mathilda Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 5:18 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That is a straight out lie. You never tire of telling us what it is that atheists believe when atheism is simply a lack of belief by definition. Have you no morals, or is lying for jebus somehow exempt?

Oooh we have enough to start a list:

• Spammer
  
• Misogynist
  
• Liar
  

A list? elsewhere we have started creationist bingo cards.

(May 13, 2018 at 3:18 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: 162 pages??

I'm glad I haven't read the whole thing. It, like any ongoing creationist nonsense, is like a slow lobotomy.

And you, you mad thing seem to have the right idea, you simply drop your comment then go about your questionable business.

I envy you your evilness

(May 6, 2018 at 7:36 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I provided proof.  That pretty much ended the debate.

Yeah, your reality suicided.

(May 13, 2018 at 4:16 pm)*Deidre* Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 3:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Actually some brilliant scientists support it.  There are more scientists in the US that believe in a higher power than there are atheist scientists.

Going with that idea, I don't see a problem with a scientist also believing in a higher power/God. I think that science and faith can coexist, but there are some areas where they could collide. But, I believe in God, and also have a love and respect for science.

Yeah, there are areas where a Creator comes together with science and that is in the fields of biochemistry and cosmology mainly.

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(May 13, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Wololo Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 3:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Actually some brilliant scientists support it.  There are more scientists in the US that believe in a higher power than there are atheist scientists.

So you're now walking back your previous claim that most scientists are christian, without acknowledging how wrong you were.  Well done you hypocritical piece of shit.

More scientists believe in a higher power was my claim than there are atheists scientists.  This is true in the US based on that poll I posted.

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(May 13, 2018 at 6:11 pm)possibletarian Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 3:18 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: 162 pages??

I'm glad I haven't read the whole thing.  It, like any ongoing creationist nonsense, is like a slow lobotomy.

And you, you mad thing seem to have the right idea, you simply drop your comment then go about your questionable business.

I envy you your evilness

Another atheist envying evil.

(May 13, 2018 at 6:53 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 4:16 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: Going with that idea, I don't see a problem with a scientist also believing in a higher power/God. I think that science and faith can coexist, but there are some areas where they could collide. But, I believe in God, and also have a love and respect for science.

Yeah, there are areas where a Creator comes together with science and that is in the fields of biochemistry and cosmology mainly.

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(May 13, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Wololo Wrote: So you're now walking back your previous claim that most scientists are christian, without acknowledging how wrong you were.  Well done you hypocritical piece of shit.

More scientists believe in a higher power was my claim than there are atheists scientists.  This is true in the US based on that poll I posted.

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(May 13, 2018 at 6:11 pm)possibletarian Wrote: And you, you mad thing seem to have the right idea, you simply drop your comment then go about your questionable business.

I envy you your evilness

Another atheist envying evil.

(May 13, 2018 at 3:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm)Kit Wrote:

As I've already explained:

A good scientist can hold silly religious beliefs and still be good at his job so long as he keeps both separate, unless he's an ID scientist; at that point, he's just lost his way entirely.

There are brilliant scientists that are ID scientists.

You're not only a shithead, you're a liar, too.  Keep heading further down the toilet.

https://www.aclu.org/other/what-scientif...ent-design

Quote:American Association of University Professors

"The theory of evolution is all but universally accepted in the community of scholars and has contributed immeasurably to our understanding of the natural world. [...] The American Association of University Professors deplores efforts in local communities and by some state legislators to require teachers in public schools to treat evolution as merely a hypothesis or speculation, untested and unsubstantiated by the methods of science, and to require them to make students aware of an "intelligent-design hypothesis" to account for the origins of life. These initiatives not only violate the academic freedom of public school teachers, but can deny students an understanding of the overwhelming scientific consensus regarding evolution."

Among numerous other citations.

There is no place for creatardism in science.