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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:All agree on republic.
Agreement is not required it fits the idea
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Back to molecular machines. They are irreducibly complex, meaning if one part fails the entire system is degraded or fails to operate. We haven't really touched on irreducible complexity much. We discussed CSI (Complex Specific Information) and molecular machines but not irreducibly complex machines.

(May 14, 2018 at 10:05 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:All agree on republic.
Agreement is not required it fits the idea

Does not totally fit the idea.  Only in that article you cited does it fit the idea.  I disagree with that article and so does the CIA World Factbook.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 14, 2018 at 4:14 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote: When you think about it, it kindof blows.  Firstly, we have a person who believes anything they see on the talking box.  Secondly, we have people who know that...using the talking box to fuck with people.  Then..because people will believe anything they see on the talking box and people exploit that.....we have folks like poor cdf here..embarrasing himself in public and (one day) voting for process and policy based on all this embarrassment.

This is not embarrassing crushing atheists in a debate about DNA.

ROFLOL

All you're doing is giving Christianity a bad name. Congratulations on that.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 14, 2018 at 10:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Back to molecular machines.  They are irreducibly complex, meaning if one part fails the entire system is degraded or fails to operate.  We haven't really touched on irreducible complexity much.  We discussed CSI (Complex Specific Information) and molecular machines but not irreducibly complex machines.

Advocates of irreducible complexity have yet to produce a single irreducibly complex thing.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 14, 2018 at 10:13 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 4:14 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This is not embarrassing crushing atheists in a debate about DNA.

ROFLOL

All you're doing is giving Christianity a bad name.  Congratulations on that.

Not trying to do that.  I hope not.

(May 14, 2018 at 10:17 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 10:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Back to molecular machines.  They are irreducibly complex, meaning if one part fails the entire system is degraded or fails to operate.  We haven't really touched on irreducible complexity much.  We discussed CSI (Complex Specific Information) and molecular machines but not irreducibly complex machines.

Advocates of irreducible complexity have yet to produce a single irreducibly complex thing.

The molecular machines are irreducibly complex.  Take away a part and the system fails or is degraded.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
-and that;s the tragic part.

Repeating the claim doesn;t make it twice as true or any less false....so?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 14, 2018 at 3:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Astreja Wrote: Your god has a plan for humanity, CDF?

So much for that "free will" shit.

I think it's a combination of both Astreja.  He has His plan and His will be done but we also have free will to make decisions.  We are not robots.
I don't think it's possible to have free will coexisting with a god's plan unless the god is willing and able to change that plan in response to what mortals decide.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
I think we need to figure out who filled this poor fuckers head with -all- the trash.  That person must hate him.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 14, 2018 at 10:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and that;s the tragic part.

Repeating the claim doesn;t make it twice as true or any less false....so?

I'm not sure what your point was originally.

(May 14, 2018 at 10:27 pm)Astreja Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 3:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I think it's a combination of both Astreja.  He has His plan and His will be done but we also have free will to make decisions.  We are not robots.
I don't think it's possible to have free will coexisting with a god's plan unless the god is willing and able to change that plan in response to what mortals decide.

Yes, I believe He is willing and able to adjust parts of His plan based on what humans do (prayers,...) without changing anything in the Bible.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 14, 2018 at 10:17 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 10:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Back to molecular machines.  They are irreducibly complex, meaning if one part fails the entire system is degraded or fails to operate.  We haven't really touched on irreducible complexity much.  We discussed CSI (Complex Specific Information) and molecular machines but not irreducibly complex machines.

Advocates of irreducible complexity have yet to produce a single irreducibly complex thing.

(May 14, 2018 at 10:35 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 10:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and that;s the tragic part.

Repeating the claim doesn;t make it twice as true or any less false....so?

I'm not sure what your point was originally.

Two posts above your own..in direct response.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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