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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:07 pm
(May 17, 2018 at 8:30 am)Joods Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 5:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He is all powerful and never grows weary and chooses to be involved with His creation.
Really? He chooses to be involved? How come there are people starving?
How come people have cancer?
How come innocent children fall victim to physical and sexual abuse?
If your god is "involved", he sure has a funny way of showing it.
Evil and struggling are due to the fall of man when sin entered this world when Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:08 pm
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Um........didn;t you -just- tell us otherwise? You need to work harder to keep your shit straight, at a bare minimum. I;m not demanding that it make sense, only suggesting that you pick a silly story and stick with it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:09 pm
(May 17, 2018 at 8:31 am)Hammy Wrote: Why won't God heal amputees?
He has allowed there to be medical devices now that can significantly help amputees. Sometimes He allows doctors and medicine to help or heal people.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:10 pm
Phew, glad he let somebody else do all that work. Where would we be without him. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:11 pm
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(May 17, 2018 at 8:38 am)Joods Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 7:51 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I noticed you don't care to even listen to my points which I have spent much time researching and studying and I am here to speak the truth to you. All you seem to care about is your neo-Darwin views and atheism.
I've listened to your verbal diarrhea for 250 pages. None of it is the truth, but you keep telling yourself that it is. The best we're going to get from you is laughable entertainment.
If anything, your posts in this thread should be required reading for noobs
so that they know what NOT to believe in.
To teach them not to follow the latest science in the cell and DNA or the latest we know about cosmology. Yeah, that will keep them atheists. Just spoon feed them Neo-Darwinism only.
(May 17, 2018 at 9:19 am)Khemikal Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 11:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
No, because the creation account is given and it is clear in the Scriptures that God transcends this universe. He is not a sun god like Ra and Horus.
Then stop bitching about sun gods like it;s a problem for you, and at least give other silly religions the dignity of getting their silly gods right. While you're at it, maybe you should research the origins of your silly creation story.? You;d quickly find the theban influence in your magic book.
Christianity is a unique religion which is the only one that says we need a Savior and that we can't save ourselves.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:13 pm
(May 17, 2018 at 2:09 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 17, 2018 at 8:31 am)Hammy Wrote: Why won't God heal amputees?
He has allowed there to be medical devices now that can significantly help amputees. Sometimes He allows doctors and medicine to help or heal people.
Then why did I have to spend years in medical school, then as an intern, and continue my learning and working hard if it wanted me to cure people? Why not just give me the skills and knowledge?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:13 pm
(May 17, 2018 at 10:28 am)possibletarian Wrote: (May 17, 2018 at 9:19 am)Khemikal Wrote: Then stop bitching about sun gods like it;s a problem for you, and at least give other silly religions the dignity of getting their silly gods right. While you're at it, maybe you should research the origins of your silly creation story.? You;d quickly find the theban influence in your magic book.
I love how Christians mock the silliness of other religions myths, while at the same time fully accepting talking serpents, unicorns, demons, Weird sci-fi ish flying thrones and creatures with four heads (animal heads at that), talking donkeys, a god who wants to stone people to death for as little as rubbing two sticks together on the Sabbath, a creation that spans and include 3 different creation myths (written long after the Jewish nation was established).
A saviour who fly's about on a cloud, flying chariots... i could go on.
Fucking hilarious.
Some of that is just symbolic.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:14 pm
(May 17, 2018 at 2:06 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 17, 2018 at 7:04 am)Hammy Wrote: A supercomputer (1) is natural (2) is not a deity (3) is much more plausible than God.
So that 'analogy' is not exactly helpful.
Just an analogy. It is helpful, that is how He can control every molecule in the universe as He chooses. A supercomputer could count the number of hairs on the head of a created character in the universe that was built in it. Similar for God who can count the number of hairs on our head.
A rather prescient analogy, I might add. Since God is omniscient, he always knows what is the best thing to do at any instant, by definition. Thus God doesn't need to be intelligent, and indeed, being intelligent would be a hindrance to his acting efficiently. Since acting less efficiently than possible is an imperfection, God cannot be intelligent, as that would mean he is not perfect. So the necessary conclusion of Christian theology is that God is an automaton, mindlessly carrying out the actions which his omniscience dictates that he perform.
So, yes, your God is very much like a super computer.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:14 pm
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@CDF
-so is some™ of everyone elses silly religion.
By some I mean all, all of all of your religions are symbolic..there is no fucking god, lol. If you can;t tease out the value of your faith in the absence of pixies then your faith has no value. Similarly, if you conclude that the faiths of others have no value because they include pixies just as your own.... then you condemn your own as equally worthless.
Pick a story...stick with it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 17, 2018 at 2:15 pm
(May 17, 2018 at 2:14 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (May 17, 2018 at 2:06 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Just an analogy. It is helpful, that is how He can control every molecule in the universe as He chooses. A supercomputer could count the number of hairs on the head of a created character in the universe that was built in it. Similar for God who can count the number of hairs on our head.
A rather prescient analogy, I might add. Since God is omniscient, he always knows what is the best thing to do at any instant, by definition. Thus God doesn't need to be intelligent, and indeed, being intelligent would be a hindrance to his acting efficiently. Since acting less efficiently than possible is an imperfection, God cannot be intelligent, as that would mean he is not perfect. So the necessary conclusion of Christian theology is that God is an automaton, mindlessly carrying out the actions which his omniscience dictates that he perform.
So, yes, your God is very much like a super computer.
A super computer that has experienced an EMP...
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