Hello Everyone,
I'm new here, and, as you can see from my profile I am a theist. I believe in One God, that created the entire world himself, with out the use of evolution or a "big bang". However, I am not so fundamentalist that I believe that it took a literal 6 days. Evidence shows that the earth has been around for more than 6,000 years...and the Bible doesn't explicitly state what a "day" consists of.
Genesis:
"1:5 God called the light 'day,' and the darkness he called 'night.' And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."
"1:8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day." (NIV)
Etc.
Obviously it doesn't define much, as far as day and night is concerned, besides that light is "day, and darkness is "night". And that there was an evening and a morning. This is all besides the point though.
The real point I'm trying to make is this: I am a theist, but I disagree with SO many other theists, in areas such as The Trinity, When the "rapture" will occur, and how long the earth has really been around. I can agree with most all theists on the following points:
1. That there is a God
That's it...
Here's why: After you differentiate between Theists and Atheists, then you have Polytheistic and Monotheistic, then down(Following Monotheistic path) to Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc.... The down the Christianity path to Protestant versus Catholic, then within the Protestant branch to Baptist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc etc etc. I am even further removed, being an Protestant Unitarian, non-denominational... But I can agree with most protestants that:
1. That God Exists, created the world and universe, and is still living, and that god is omnipresent and all-powerful
2. That God(The Father) sent his only Son to earth to die to save me because I sinned, as did every other man on earth
3. That there is a Heaven and a Hell,
But I disagree in the following areas:
1. I don't see the logic or Biblical evidence behind a Trinity(Which is considered absolutely VITAL to believe in many Christian churches)
2. I don't agree with many fellow Protestants that the "rapture" will occur Before the Great Tribulation, I believe it will occur after, thus I am a "Post-Trib"
The list go's on. That's why I consider myself a Non-denominational. I attend Baptist churches usually, and I don't often tell people that I'm Unitarian or else they'll try and kick me out or worse...
So here is my question to you atheists:
Were you aware of this much divide between theist people, and is there much division between the atheists...like as in time frames and how old the earth really is(stuff like that)?
I am open to debate on topics such as my belief on how old the earth is and my other beliefs, but can we please try to keep discussion focused on the above question? Later let's tackle my other thoughts.
I appreciate it,
Willie
I'm new here, and, as you can see from my profile I am a theist. I believe in One God, that created the entire world himself, with out the use of evolution or a "big bang". However, I am not so fundamentalist that I believe that it took a literal 6 days. Evidence shows that the earth has been around for more than 6,000 years...and the Bible doesn't explicitly state what a "day" consists of.
Genesis:
"1:5 God called the light 'day,' and the darkness he called 'night.' And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."
"1:8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day." (NIV)
Etc.
Obviously it doesn't define much, as far as day and night is concerned, besides that light is "day, and darkness is "night". And that there was an evening and a morning. This is all besides the point though.
The real point I'm trying to make is this: I am a theist, but I disagree with SO many other theists, in areas such as The Trinity, When the "rapture" will occur, and how long the earth has really been around. I can agree with most all theists on the following points:
1. That there is a God
That's it...
Here's why: After you differentiate between Theists and Atheists, then you have Polytheistic and Monotheistic, then down(Following Monotheistic path) to Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc.... The down the Christianity path to Protestant versus Catholic, then within the Protestant branch to Baptist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc etc etc. I am even further removed, being an Protestant Unitarian, non-denominational... But I can agree with most protestants that:
1. That God Exists, created the world and universe, and is still living, and that god is omnipresent and all-powerful
2. That God(The Father) sent his only Son to earth to die to save me because I sinned, as did every other man on earth
3. That there is a Heaven and a Hell,
But I disagree in the following areas:
1. I don't see the logic or Biblical evidence behind a Trinity(Which is considered absolutely VITAL to believe in many Christian churches)
2. I don't agree with many fellow Protestants that the "rapture" will occur Before the Great Tribulation, I believe it will occur after, thus I am a "Post-Trib"
The list go's on. That's why I consider myself a Non-denominational. I attend Baptist churches usually, and I don't often tell people that I'm Unitarian or else they'll try and kick me out or worse...
So here is my question to you atheists:
Were you aware of this much divide between theist people, and is there much division between the atheists...like as in time frames and how old the earth really is(stuff like that)?
I am open to debate on topics such as my belief on how old the earth is and my other beliefs, but can we please try to keep discussion focused on the above question? Later let's tackle my other thoughts.
I appreciate it,
Willie
-Willie
A Baptist/Unitarian, open-minded Conservative, easy going fellow
"Do not compute the totality of your poultry population until all the manifestations of incubation have been entirely completed."
--William Jennings Bryan
James 1:19 :
"My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry," (NIV)
A Baptist/Unitarian, open-minded Conservative, easy going fellow
"Do not compute the totality of your poultry population until all the manifestations of incubation have been entirely completed."
--William Jennings Bryan
James 1:19 :
"My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry," (NIV)