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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:30 pm
(May 21, 2018 at 10:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You;ve never read it...have you...lol?
I read it one time cover to cover and I study it all the time.
Yet you can't even interpret it correctly.
Quote: My mother taught me from the Bible when I was 3 years old.
So, indoctrination. If your mother taught you Islam, you would be believing that and reading the Quran instead.
Quote: I went to Catholic high school. I was born and raised Christian.
That's part of the problem, right there.
Quote: I almost turned into a deist before returning to Christianity at one point. As a child I was almost swayed aside as well by an older friend who was an atheist. I always came back to the Lord.
So you decided to toss out logic and reason for a magical sky daddy who you think will comfort you in your time of need?
Fine for you, but stop trying to represent your religion as something that makes sense. God wasn't responsible for anything that can be proven. Further - you insult the scientific community when you try to equate your stupid religion with scientific facts.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:31 pm
(May 21, 2018 at 10:29 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:No, I held onto an existing living God despite the schooling. Neo-Darwinism has many problems as a theory.
Nope you clung to your brainwashing . Ignored real science . And the theory of evolution has never been stronger and it's only getting better . ID on the other hand is going to the dustbin of history .
The atheists and Neo-Darwinists only wish.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:31 pm
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Quote:Yes, but the molecular machines he speaks of are real, as is the irreducible complexity
Nope to the later . There is no evidence of irreducible complexity it's a fallacy plain and simple .
Quote:The atheists and Neo-Darwinists only wish.
Nope rational science minded people know it to be a fact .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:32 pm
(May 21, 2018 at 10:14 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:10 pm)Joods Wrote: Listen, it hasn't been ignored. It's been addressed in over 300 pages now. It's been refuted and you're just pissed off because no one is buying your brand of woo. Shame that you are too ignorant to see that you just don't have the evidence to back up your claim about DNA.
I just hope some lurkers see the truth of what I have presented here and see through the lies I have come up against.
After reading this stupid thread, I just hope those lurkers will have the common sense to keep a hold on their logic and reason and not fall for your sea of lies.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:32 pm
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(May 21, 2018 at 10:23 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Oh...is that right? So tell me again. If Behe turned out to be wrong.....would you still believe?
Yes, but the molecular machines exist. I've seen them inside the cell in videos through a microscope and have seen the animations.
(May 21, 2018 at 10:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote: ...........if Behe turned out to be wrong....would you still believe?
Yes, but the molecular machines he speaks of are real, as is the irreducible complexity.
(May 21, 2018 at 10:23 pm)Joods Wrote: Nope. The devil is just as imaginary as your god.
I don't understand why we have to keep telling theists this. If we don't subscribe to your brand of woo, what the fuck makes you think we are going to believe in his evil opposite? Get a clue man. We aren't as dumb as you.
Un-believers are sided with the devil in the Bible.
(May 21, 2018 at 10:30 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:29 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You;re an admitted liar. Tell me more stories.
I speak the truth.
Which one of these assholes is telling the truth...and which one of them will god forgive?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:34 pm
(May 21, 2018 at 10:30 pm)Joods Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I read it one time cover to cover and I study it all the time.
Yet you can't even interpret it correctly.
Quote: My mother taught me from the Bible when I was 3 years old.
So, indoctrination. If your mother taught you Islam, you would be believing that and reading the Quran instead.
Quote: I went to Catholic high school. I was born and raised Christian.
That's part of the problem, right there.
Quote: I almost turned into a deist before returning to Christianity at one point. As a child I was almost swayed aside as well by an older friend who was an atheist. I always came back to the Lord.
So you decided to toss out logic and reason for a magical sky daddy who you think will comfort you in your time of need?
Fine for you, but stop trying to represent your religion as something that makes sense. God wasn't responsible for anything that can be proven. Further - you insult the scientific community when you try to equate your stupid religion with scientific facts.
No, the Quran states that Allah is the greatest deceiver. It states this a number of times. Plus, the science is wrong in the Quran.
The Catholic school I went to even taught Neo-Darwinism in science class. There was no ID there which looking back, there should have been.
The science I proposed totally supports a Designer and Creator of all.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Quote:I speak the truth.
Nope lies lies and more lies .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:35 pm
(May 21, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 21, 2018 at 10:23 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Yes, but the molecular machines exist. I've seen them inside the cell in videos through a microscope and have seen the animations.
(May 21, 2018 at 10:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Yes, but the molecular machines he speaks of are real, as is the irreducible complexity.
Un-believers are sided with the devil in the Bible.
(May 21, 2018 at 10:30 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I speak the truth.
Which one of these assholes is telling the truth...and which one of them will god forgive?
Everything there is true.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:38 pm
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(May 21, 2018 at 10:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, the Quran states that Allah is the greatest deceiver. It states this a number of times. Plus, the science is wrong in the Quran.
So does your magic book, and so is your magic book.
Quote:The Catholic school I went to even taught Neo-Darwinism in science class. There was no ID there which looking back, there should have been.
Maybe you should have taken that as instructive............?
Quote:The science I proposed totally supports a Designer and Creator of all.
Your pseudo-science makes a mockery of god...so much so that the catholics wouldn;t teach it to you....pagans though they are.
Do you really think you can talk your way out of hell?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2018 at 10:43 pm
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Quote:No, the Quran states that Allah is the greatest deceiver. It states this a number of times.
Quote:The above translation does not exist. It is only made up by crazy deluded missionaries in order to lead people astray. Arabic word(s) makr, Makara can be used negatively and for good. So when the Jews planned to get Jesus arrested and crucified, that was evil, whereas when Allah thwarted their evil plan by saving Jesus, this was good. So, the claim by missionaries that Allah is a deceiver for helping one of the Prophet’s from slaughter at the hands of evil, wicked people, these claims have no bearing on the passage historically.
Islamic scholar, Maulana Muhammad Shaffi
Quote:“In these verses the miraculous event of the Ascension of Sayyidna Isa (Jesus Christ) has been mentioned. ‘And they made a move’ refers to the evil designs of the Jews who planned to arrest him and to get him crucified.
The next sentence i.e., ‘and Allah made a move’ refers to the plan designed by Allah Almighty to save his Prophet Isa (Jesus) from their ill designs.
Let us begin with … translated as ‘and Allah is the best of those who make moves’. The word, makr in Arabic denotes a subtle and secret move or plan. If this is for a good purpose, it is good; and if this is for a bad purpose, it is bad. It is why the restriction of saiyy (… : evil) was placed with makr (…: move, plan) in: … (And evil plan besets none but its perpetrator – 35:43).” [1]
Quote:“The word … (Makr) used in verse 21:… (say, ‘Allah is more swift in making plans’) means secret plan or move that could be good or bad. Whenever this word has become a part of the local language, care should be taken that it is not rendered as deception’. … It is obvious that Allah Ta’ala is free from it. The warning given in verse 23: … (your rebellion is, in fact, against your own-selves) tells us that the curse of injustice is certain and, much before matters are settled in the hereafter, one who is guilty of doing injustice must suffer from its evil consequences in this world as well. The Holy Prophet has said: ‘Allah Ta’ala hastens to repay mercy shown to relatives and favour done to people (whereby its blessings start becoming visible in this world, much before the Hereafter). And He hastens to repay injustices done and relationships severed (in that its consequences have to be faced within the life of this world). (reported by Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah with a hasan chain of narrators)
In another Hadith narrated by Sayyidah A’ishah…, the Holy Prophet said, ‘there are three sins the curse whereof falls on the sinner himself: Injustice, breach of trust and deception.’ (Reported by Abu ash-Shaykh and Ibn Marduwayh in Tafsir) (See Mazhari). [2]
Scholar Maulana Muhammad Ali
Quote:4a. Makr is explained by R as the turning of another with ingenuity or skill from that which he aims at, and he considers makr as of two sorts, a good one and an evil one. Therefore the best interpretation of the word Makara (including both sorts) is that adopted by T, viz he exercised craft, cunning, art, or skill in the management or ordering of affairs with excellent consideration or deliberation, and ability to manage according to his own free will (LL). The idea of the plan being contrived for an evil purpose or clandestinely, which is included in the significance of the word, has led many to take that idea as its exclusive significance, which is not the case. Makar-Llahu may also signify that Allah recompensed or requited them for their makr (T-LL). According to some, its original significance is the gathering of an affair and its strengthening (Rz). All these explanations show that it is the equivalent of the word plan, the good or evil nature of the plan being dependent on the object or doer’s intention. Allah is called here Khair al-makarin or the Best of planners, the qualifying word khair being inapplicable to an evil object.
54b. The Jews planned to put Jesus to death by crucifixion, and Allah made a plan to frustrate their plans; and Allah’s plan was successful… [3]
By the way the same thing about your God
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_bi...a_deceiver
Quote:The science I proposed totally supports a Designer and Creator of all.
No it doesn't it's all just fallacies .
Quote:Everything there is true.
Not a word
Quote:The Catholic school I went to even taught Neo-Darwinism in science class. There was no ID there which looking back, there should have been.
Good on the Catholics for teaching REAL science . And no ID as pseudoscience has no place . There is no controversy to be taught. Your side lost .
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