(May 29, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: I can't stand Republicans. lol

Gay Republicans are especially the worst, especially when they're in the closet due to their political beliefs. I absolutely support them being outed.

I call myself a "pragmatic libertarian", and I'm pretty centrist these days. I find most libertarians are anarchists who don't like the 'a' word. Libertarianism and anarchism are incompatible though. Libertarians still believe in the benefits of government, they just don't think the government should be too overbearing.

My take is you should expand the role of government if you can demonstrate an overwhelming benefit for society by doing so. This is why I support universal healthcare. I'm fine sacrificing some liberty if it means that poor people won't die or go bankrupt because life dealt them a bad hand.

One man's overwhelming is another man's overbearing.

(May 29, 2018 at 1:44 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 1:36 pm)Edwardo Piet Wrote: They're both anti-authority too

I can't smoke weed though

You can't smoke weed?

I can't smoke. It burns my throat so I refuse to do it and I can't do what I refuse to do.

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(May 29, 2018 at 3:18 pm)Tiberius Wrote: This is why I support universal healthcare. I'm fine sacrificing some liberty if it means that poor people won't die or go bankrupt because life dealt them a bad hand.

I agree that that is just. But I guess I don't consider the 'freedom' to have more than others so they are worse off and less free than yourself to be a freedom. I consider freedom to be an entirely good thing so if that freedom hurts others it's not good anymore so it's not freedom anymore. I definitely reserve the word "freedom" for good things. Like freedom of speech, freedom of property, etc. Freedom to violate or harm isn't something I'd call freedom.

I mean, sure, one way of looking at it is that technically it's freedom because there are good freedoms and bad freedoms. But then again, if you're violating the freedom of others with your freedom, is being pro that really pro freedom?

So, I wouldn't say that being against the freedom to harm or violate the freedom of others makes me any less liberal. After all, when you violate the freedom of others you may be promoting your freedom but you're violating theirs... so how would that be pro freedom?

Quote:I'm a Libertarian, don't worry thought I'm not crazy I just prefer less government.

Why?

Are you a billionaire who thinks he can run roughshod over all the little people?

I used to be a libertarian. Then I found the Green Party and was much happier. I'm too pro-public schools to be a libertarian. Not to mention pro-welfare.

I do, however, think the government needs to stop incarcerating people over drug usage. (Of course the private prison system and for-profit colleges are a big part of why I'm not a libertarian anymore)

(May 30, 2018 at 10:43 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I used to be a libertarian. Then I found the Green Party and was much happier.

The green party in NZ has a defence policy to build a big hedge around the country.

Not quite true, but one of their policies is to disband, or greatly reduce the military.