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(May 30, 2018 at 12:00 pm)henryp Wrote: I think a lot of the problem, is people don't know who Roseanne Barr is outside of what CNN and Twitter tells them.
Things like in 1994, ABC was trying to keep an episode of Roseanne featuring a Lesbian kiss off the air, and Roseanne told them she'd take her show to another network if they didn't air it.
That show also addressed domestic abuse, birth control, gay marriage, abortion, worker rights, depression, mental illness, child abuse, interracial relationships, etc.. And not in a hokey cartoon-y way She is exactly right that she created the platform. And it wasn't like it is now, where people do 'tough episodes' because they know they will be applauded as progressive heroes. This was back when it didn't happen. She was so far ahead of the curve.
But then she got old, and bought into too much conspiracy stuff, which is sad. And she's always been a comedian who worries about how other people will 'interpret' what she says later, so once people turned on her, it'd be easy to get rid of her.
Essentially, for those of us old enough to remember, she spent her entire adult life championing the right things at great personal cost decades before the general population got on board. And people are ready to discard her because at 65, she bought into some conspiracies, and likes Trump.
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Regarding criticizing people criticizing her, I think she's probably frustrated that people who've done nothing are saying she's a bad person, when she's got a lifetime of hugely positive contributions that she had to fight tooth and nail for.
If she wanted people to speak warmly about her, she shouldn't have tweeted what she did. Furthermore, a "champion" of social causes doesn't turn her back on, or speak ill of those causes. Ever. Consider that yesterday she tweeted that she was leaving twitter and yet, amazingly enough, she's still at it. And she's retweeting things and them deleting them. She is literally all over the place with this shit. She's the WLB in female form.
She isn't sorry about what she's said or done or about who she's hurt in the process. She's only sorry that she got caught.
I have two things related to this:
1) One of the funnier things to watch, was people's opinion of George W. Bush. He was a war criminal for 8 years. That's not a small thing. He definitely got plenty of "just like Hitler's" tossed his way. He was the worst president ever. Just a nightmare of a human that will rot in hell. Then the Bush's said they didn't care for Trump, and now he's a good guy. 61% view favorably, 33% unfavorably.
How does a war criminal who's just like Hitler in the eyes of so many people suddenly become loveable? The answer, is that there's nobody up top in the group of people running the show that's invested in having people think George Bush is just like Hitler anymore. And without that narrative controlling how people view him, now he's a really nice guy who tried his best in some tough circumstances.
(May 30, 2018 at 2:31 am)Whitewolf Wrote: Her tweet is hilarious and anyone butthurt about it is a PC liberal zombie with no sense of humor.
Stupid, lazy joke for primitive people. The dumb c*nt thought her show was popular enough, that she could publicly stroke the tiny d*cks of racist Trumpsters. She thought wrong - tough sh*t. F*ck her and f*ck the trash people she caters to...
Why are you putting *s in your curse words? Are you afraid your mom might read this forum or something?
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work. If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now. Yes, I DO want fries with that.
(May 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Why are you putting *s in your curse words? Are you afraid your mom might read this forum or something?
Because the internet is polluted with people, who are triggered by the mere thought, that someone somewhere might be trying to be considerate of other people's feelings. And it doesn't cost me anything to annoy those c*nts, while using as colourful and offensive a language, as I wish. Sort of a "two birds, one stone" situation...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
(May 30, 2018 at 2:02 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But, lowered inhibitions is a side effect of ambien. ...Meaning that Roseanne is really a racist asshole who was just forgot to hide it.
You think Roseanne has a lot of secret opinions she's been hiding to avoid controversy?
Not anymore, anyway. Not sure how long she's been popping ambien, but it seems all her loony cards are on the table now.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
(May 30, 2018 at 12:36 pm)Joods Wrote: If she wanted people to speak warmly about her, she shouldn't have tweeted what she did. Furthermore, a "champion" of social causes doesn't turn her back on, or speak ill of those causes. Ever. Consider that yesterday she tweeted that she was leaving twitter and yet, amazingly enough, she's still at it. And she's retweeting things and them deleting them. She is literally all over the place with this shit. She's the WLB in female form.
She isn't sorry about what she's said or done or about who she's hurt in the process. She's only sorry that she got caught.
I have two things related to this:
1) One of the funnier things to watch, was people's opinion of George W. Bush. He was a war criminal for 8 years. That's not a small thing. He definitely got plenty of "just like Hitler's" tossed his way. He was the worst president ever. Just a nightmare of a human that will rot in hell. Then the Bush's said they didn't care for Trump, and now he's a good guy. 61% view favorably, 33% unfavorably.
How does a war criminal who's just like Hitler in the eyes of so many people suddenly become loveable? The answer, is that there's nobody up top in the group of people running the show that's invested in having people think George Bush is just like Hitler anymore. And without that narrative controlling how people view him, now he's a really nice guy who tried his best in some tough circumstances.
May 30, 2018 at 2:24 pm (This post was last modified: May 30, 2018 at 2:27 pm by LadyForCamus.)
Rosanne wants free speech, and she has it. She still has it. No one is censoring her Twitter account. That there are consequences of free speech is that irritating nugget of truth the far right doesn’t want to hear. She opened her mouth and said something really thoughtless, tone deaf, and offensive. Her boss didn’t like it, so she got fired. If you communicate publicly like a flagrant racist, and you lose your job because of it, tough titties. Maybe next time, don’t call a black person a monkey, eh? How hard is that? A little personal responsibility goes a long way.
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