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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 5:05 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 3:56 pm)A Theist Wrote: ….yeah, and I love how a State creates a "civil rights commission" that's supposed to protect people's rights and then fills it with anti Christian bigots.
That might move more people if "anti christian bigot" meant something other than " a person who isn;t interested in letting christians discriminate"......
-don;t you think? I use the term christian loosely, ofc..........not really all that good at the loving your fellow man or giving unto ceaser bits..now are you? 
The Supreme Court thought "anti Christian" bias meant something, which is why they weren't interested in letting a bigoted state agency discriminate against a Christian Baker.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 5:10 pm
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Right, because..in upside downland, christian bakers can discriminate to their hearts content. Cakes make them gay and shit. #bias!
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 5:14 pm
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 6:06 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 3:41 pm)A Theist Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Shell B Wrote: You're telling people it's none of their business what our Supreme Court does if they don't live here. So, does that mean what you see as human right's violations in other parts of the world are none of your business? That kind of goes against the Republican invade and kill mantra.
If you think it's perfectly fine deny service to gay people because they're gay, you're not a fan, buddy.
What kind of human rights violations are you talking about? Genocide? ….or that of the Christian Baker whose rights were violated by a state agency that was created to protect people's civil rights whom the SCOTUS determined was hostile and bigoted toward the Baker's religious views? The SCOTUS ruling in this instance had little to do with the gay rights issue....but that this particular Colorado state agency showed no neutrality when considering this case and they showed an obvious hostility and bias when they ruled against the Baker. Read Justice Kennedy's response.
I am pleasantly surprised, though, that you showed such a concern for the civil rights of this Christian Baker whose rights were violated by a state agency.
So you do mind your own business about other countries?
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 7:03 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 3:51 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 3:47 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't think that it matters if one is heterosexual or homosexual. They don't do cakes for same sex unions.
Would it not be discrimination to refuse to make cakes for black weddings, if the person trying to buy the cake was white?
It seems to me, that there is a big difference between two people of opposite sex, and not that big of a difference between two men (or women) of differing races. That does pertain directly to marriage, and has for many centuries.
Besides I was talking about a heterosexual person in a same sex union. Not just buying for someone else.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 7:16 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 6:06 pm)Shell B Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 3:41 pm)A Theist Wrote: What kind of human rights violations are you talking about? Genocide? ….or that of the Christian Baker whose rights were violated by a state agency that was created to protect people's civil rights whom the SCOTUS determined was hostile and bigoted toward the Baker's religious views? The SCOTUS ruling in this instance had little to do with the gay rights issue....but that this particular Colorado state agency showed no neutrality when considering this case and they showed an obvious hostility and bias when they ruled against the Baker. Read Justice Kennedy's response.
I am pleasantly surprised, though, that you showed such a concern for the civil rights of this Christian Baker whose rights were violated by a state agency.
So you do mind your own business about other countries?
That would depend. What kind of human rights violations were you talking about? Genocide, or a case similar to the one in Colorado where another country's high court ruled in such a way that you didn't approve of?
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It was actually a Colorado State Civil Rights Commission filled with narrow minded bigoted assholes who the Supreme Court ruled against.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 7:26 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 7:03 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 3:51 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Would it not be discrimination to refuse to make cakes for black weddings, if the person trying to buy the cake was white?
It seems to me, that there is a big difference between two people of opposite sex, and not that big of a difference between two men (or women) of differing races. That does pertain directly to marriage, and has for many centuries.
Besides I was talking about a heterosexual person in a same sex union. Not just buying for someone else.
How do heterosexuals buy a gay wedding cake for themselves? You do realize it's not the actual cake that's gay? Also there is nothing about marriage that requires a penis and vagina, it's two people entering a contract.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 7:28 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 8:52 am)johan Wrote: Quote:
Quote:Businesses should be free to refuse to serve anyone they choose. Likewise the public should be free to refuse to patronize those businesses.
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If a business is selling standard goods to the general public then it should be required to accept all customers.
Would you be OK if every single food establishment and grocery store in your county refused to sell you food? Suppose it then extended to the entire State? Are you still OK with it? And then to entire nation. Are you still OK with that?
A bakery sells standard goods to the general public. When it refuses to sell a standard product to someone it's engaging in discrimination. The place would be lucky not to get firebombed or shot up by the person being discriminated against.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 7:28 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Right, because..in upside downland, christian bakers can discriminate to their hearts content. Cakes make them gay and shit. #bias! SCOTUS turned upside downland right side up when it determined that state agencies can't discriminate against Christian Bakers.
#shut down state sponsored bigotry against Christians!
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 5, 2018 at 7:41 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 3:28 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I believe that they would refuse a straight person who wanted a cake for the same reason as well.
You do understand that they are discussing wedding cakes, right? The bakery does indeed make wedding cakes for straight couples. The contention here is the fact that the bakery wouldn't make a wedding cake for a gay couple and that they feel they shouldn't have to on the basis of their religion. I addressed your comment below and you responded as follows:
(June 5, 2018 at 3:47 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 3:33 pm)Joods Wrote: If they refused to make wedding cakes for straight people as well as gay people, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
I don't think that it matters if one is heterosexual or homosexual. They don't do cakes for same sex unions.
So clearly you miss the point entirely. The entire case is built around two people being homosexual and the bakery's refusal to offer the same service (making a wedding cake) to those two people, that they normally would offer to a heterosexual couple.
Yes. It DOES matter.
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