(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:11 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: This is the same baseless assertion from page one.  “It’s just obvious” isn’t an argument, or evidence.


Nope, sorry.  If your god exists tangibly in reality somehow, then I expect you to be able to demonstrate his existence, and then demonstrate his mechanisms of action.  If you can’t, then what reason is there to believe your claims?  


And I turn to Harry Potter when I want to learn how to summons my wand.  Therefore, magic is real.

Creator is proven then it is time to examine which Creator is true.  I believe that is the Christian Creator in the Bible.

!Fact! A jiffy is an actual unit of time for 1/100th of a second. Thus the saying, I will be there in a jiffy.

It's also a delicious cookie/brownie made out of crushed graham crackers, condensed milk, and chocolate chips! Jiffys are multidimensional like that.

(June 6, 2018 at 4:22 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Creator is proven then it is time to examine which Creator is true.  I believe that is the Christian Creator in the Bible.

!Fact! A jiffy is an actual unit of time for 1/100th of a second. Thus the saying, I will be there in a jiffy.

That is an interesting fact.

(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:11 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: This is the same baseless assertion from page one.  “It’s just obvious” isn’t an argument, or evidence.


Nope, sorry.  If your god exists tangibly in reality somehow, then I expect you to be able to demonstrate his existence, and then demonstrate his mechanisms of action.  If you can’t, then what reason is there to believe your claims?  


And I turn to Harry Potter when I want to learn how to summons my wand.  Therefore, magic is real.

Creator is proven then it is time to examine which Creator is true.  I believe that is the Christian Creator in the Bible.

So far, you’ve skipped step one, lol.  You can’t actually think that repeating the same assertion for four hundred pages constitutes a discussion, can you?  Have you asked yourself why noone thus far has been convinced that DNA proves design?

---

(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

---

(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: !Fact! Male hospital patients fall out of bed twice as often as female hospital patients.

Why are you trolling this thread?

You’re trolling your own thread.

(June 6, 2018 at 4:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: My Imaginary Friend, Kevin.

Kevin exists, because I say so and I know he does.

Everyone in the world knows that Kevin exists, even if they want to live in denial about it.

Even if you haven't heard of Kevin, you instinctively know he is real.

Kevin believes in you all and he loves you, especially if you're female, even if you deny him or pretend you don't believe in him.

Kevin is that voice in the back of you're mind that tells you what is right and wrong.

Who are you to deny Kevin?

That's right, fuckers!

(June 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Creator is proven then it is time to examine which Creator is true.  I believe that is the Christian Creator in the Bible.

So far, you’ve skipped step one, lol.  You can’t actually think that repeating the same assertion for four hundred pages constitutes a discussion, can you?  Have you asked yourself why noone thus far has been convinced that DNA proves design?

---

(June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

---

Why are you trolling this thread?

You’re trolling your own thread.

It's because people here won't open their eyes to the miracle of design that is so obvious.  That is why I repeat it.  If you would just acknowledge it a bit as a possibility it would be less a problem.  Instead it is the same old, God doesn't exist and I don't like him anyway jargon.

(June 6, 2018 at 4:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So far, you’ve skipped step one, lol.  You can’t actually think that repeating the same assertion for four hundred pages constitutes a discussion, can you?  Have you asked yourself why noone thus far has been convinced that DNA proves design?

---

You’re trolling your own thread.

It's because people here won't open their eyes to the miracle of design that is so obvious.  That is why I repeat it.  If you would just acknowledge it a bit as a possibility it would be less a problem.  Instead it is the same old, God doesn't exist and I don't like him anyway jargon.

If you think that the only reason we don’t believe DNA proves a designer is because we’re stubborn, then why are you simply repeating the thing you think we’re being stubborn about over and over?  What do suppose that accomplishes?

(June 6, 2018 at 4:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It's because people here won't open their eyes to the miracle of design that is so obvious.  That is why I repeat it.  If you would just acknowledge it a bit as a possibility it would be less a problem.  Instead it is the same old, God doesn't exist and I don't like him anyway jargon.

If you think that the only reason we don’t believe DNA proves a designer is because we’re stubborn, then why are you simply repeating the thing you think we’re being stubborn about over and over?  What do suppose that accomplishes?

When someone says something to the contrary I just feel the need to correct them and point back to DNA which proves it.

(June 6, 2018 at 3:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 3:01 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Actually, people don't know right from wrong as children.  While most children develop a theory of mind (meaning, they understand that other people around them think and feel like they do), empathy != morality.  It's the start of it, perhaps, but not the end result.  That still takes reasoning.

Anyone that's actually been around children knows that they'll bite, scratch, fight for what they want, when they want it.  Children are very territorial and inherently selfish, likely due to evolutionary factors ("No, that's my nipple, get your own!").  That's why a huge part of parenting is about instilling values and teaching children how to act properly in society.  If they came out of the womb with any idea of morality, life would be a hell of a lot easier.

Based on the article below, 19 months is when a child shows understanding of right from wrong.  

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/new...onths.html

A sense of fairness, like empathy, != morality.

With little kids, especially, their notions of fairness are filtered through a selfish lens.  "What's fair to me?"

I have a young niece and nephew (5 and 6 respectively).  Despite their parents and extended family (including myself) teaching them to share their toys among themselves and not fight over them, they inevitably do.  Because their notions of fairness extend only to the boundary of their reach.  It's unfair, to them, that one of them played with the cool toy for some unspecified length of time.  Or that one of the toys belongs to them, and they want it back.  Or that the other person won't engage in a patently unfair toy playing trade because they're smart enough to know that it's not in their best interest.  Or another slight, real or imagined.

Again, parenting would be a lot easier if kids came out of the womb with morality intact.  Instead, much of it is learned.

(June 6, 2018 at 4:53 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 6, 2018 at 4:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: If you think that the only reason we don’t believe DNA proves a designer is because we’re stubborn, then why are you simply repeating the thing you think we’re being stubborn about over and over?  What do suppose that accomplishes?

When someone says something to the contrary I just feel the need to correct them and point back to DNA which proves it.

So, you’re just here to troll us then?  Cool. Thanks for finally admitting it, at least.