(June 13, 2018 at 9:50 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(June 7, 2018 at 5:29 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, If it's from God, then logically it tells me that God knew there are other gods around competing for your worship.
And that he urges you profusely to worship him in particular (or else you'll burn! mofo. Geez, you're a great salesman God! Go Yahwey!)

Actually that seems to be the case because God from the Bible calls himself "god of gods" who is worshiped by the other gods, like

For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords. Deuteronomy 10:17
Worship him, all ye gods. Psalm 97:7
O give thanks unto the God of gods. Psalm 136:2

Because in the Bible there is practiccaly described battle of the gods and Yahweh claims to be stronger than other gods:

Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? Exodus 15:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods. Exodus 18:11
What God is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to thy works? Deuteronomy 3:24
Our Lord is above all gods. Psalm 135:5

God of the Bible even claims that other gods will be defeated and killed by him

The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. Jeremiah 10:11
And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment. Exodus 12:12
Upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments. Numbers 33:4
The LORD of Heaven's Armies, the God of Israel, says: "I will punish Amon, the god of Thebes, and all the other gods of Egypt. I will punish its rulers and Pharaoh, too, and all who trust in him. Jeremiah 46:25
The Lord will be terrible to them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth. Zephaniah 2:11
The Lord ... is to be feared above all gods. 1 Chronicles 16:25
For the Lord ... is to be feared above all gods. Psalm 96:4

And so on and on......

Also "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me" was not something that patriarchs from the Bible were adherent to, like Solomon had many non-Hebrew wives and he built many religious shrines for them so they could worship their own non-Hebrew deities. Or Jeroboam, first king of Israel after the break from Judah, not only set up golden calves at cult sites, but established rival temples to the one in Jerusalem.

And it goes deeper because the Hebrews depicted in the Bible never embraced a pure monotheism, nor was there a single universal religion. Many important biblical characters in post-Exodus times, for instance, had names ending in "Baal," who was a major Canaanite deity. Gideon, one of the most famous of the early Judges, also was known as Jerub-baal, and Saul, first King of Israel, had a son named Esh-baal and this son succeeded him on the throne. But then as times passed it became ridiculous for Jews and Christians to actually believe that some other gods could be real as well, so it became an embarrassment to the final redactors of the early Bible books and they either added fictional glosses to the text to explain the apparent inconsistency or they changed the Baal name to "Bosheth," a Hebrew word meaning shame.

Indeed originally the claim was the jewish god was the bestest god, not the only god.
The others seem to have been pared away later.

Quote:The way I see it, God needed to stress this subtle but important difference so much that he made a commandment out of it.

"God" is almost trump-like in his narcissism, isn't he?  I wonder if he likes chocolate cake, too?

(June 7, 2018 at 5:29 am)ignoramus Wrote: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"

I love this commandment! What does it tell us?
Theists, If it's from God, then logically it tells me that God knew there are other gods around competing for your worship.
And that he urges you profusely to worship him in particular (or else you'll burn! mofo. Geez, you're a great salesman God! Go Yahwey!)
Theists, Do you acknowledge this at least? If not, why not.

We atheists feel it's infinitely more probable that this was written by men. Men who knew that different cultures supported or favoured different Gods (religions).
Men who had a vested interest in swaying the masses towards a particular theology. Why else would this threat need to be written if it wasn't about control?

Looking forward to some enlightenment from theists...

I've started writing my own bible.

I'm up to the Book of (Blow) Job.

(June 11, 2018 at 9:07 am)Drich Wrote: [edit]
Just like the people here who hate God play a role. their's is to become the obstacles that test and try the faith full they become the storms of life that help proof and sharpen the faith of those who believe.
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I can't hate something that does not really exist. I can deny the belief that a god is real.

If I/we are playing a role and you believe your second sentence to be correct then you should be grateful that I/we exist and you should stop trying to convert us or tell us that we are wrong. You have now made your presence/posts here a fallacy.

(June 13, 2018 at 12:54 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Indeed originally the claim was the jewish god was the bestest god, not the only god.
The others seem to have been pared away later.

They got purged/demoted to mortal:

Psalms 82:1. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 6. Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High. 7. But ye shall die like men and fall like one of the princes.

(June 13, 2018 at 3:14 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(June 7, 2018 at 5:29 am)ignoramus Wrote: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"

I love this commandment! What does it tell us?
Theists, If it's from God, then logically it tells me that God knew there are other gods around competing for your worship.
And that he urges you profusely to worship him in particular (or else you'll burn! mofo. Geez, you're a great salesman God! Go Yahwey!)
Theists, Do you acknowledge this at least? If not, why not.

We atheists feel it's infinitely more probable that this was written by men. Men who knew that different cultures supported or favoured different Gods (religions).
Men who had a vested interest in swaying the masses towards a particular theology. Why else would this threat need to be written if it wasn't about control?

Looking forward to some enlightenment from theists...

I've started writing my own bible.

I'm up to the Book of (Blow) Job.

Well you'll have your hands full on that part!

(June 13, 2018 at 6:15 pm)ignoramus Wrote:

(June 13, 2018 at 3:14 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I've started writing my own bible.

I'm up to the Book of (Blow) Job.

Well you'll have your hands full on that part!

Depends on the Job...

Also, very interesting how, "Worship no other gods before me" is in there but not, don't rape people, or, particularly for the Catholic church, don't molest kids.

Yep.
Obviously its primary purpose is to fill the coffers for the church.
So the most important role is attract the customers to the correct church.

*whispers* the burgers are better at hungry jacks

(June 13, 2018 at 6:15 pm)ignoramus Wrote:

(June 13, 2018 at 3:14 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I've started writing my own bible.

I'm up to the Book of (Blow) Job.

Well you'll have your hands full on that part!

It does roll off the tongue though.