He types his threats quite well considering he's feverishly masturbating with the other hand.

(June 14, 2018 at 3:22 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(June 14, 2018 at 3:03 am)Godscreated Wrote: Listen closely because I do not think I will say this again, I'm not threatening anyone, I'm stating what the Bible says

Yeah that doesn't describe the gleeful tone you christians like to use when telling people how sorry they'll be when they find out that they are wrong.

don't be so ridiculous, those of us here have never expressed joy in anyone going to hell. Besides a tone in printed word is no tone at all.

Mathilda Wrote:Sure, continue believing that you're just telling us what your magic book says. After all, you're the one that has to live with yourself. But the rest of us are very familiar with the emotional blackmail.

You're the one getting emotional and because why, because we express what we know? I have no problem living with telling people about hell, it's the most horrible place anyone could be and I believe it would be dishonest to not warn people. If you were standing on the beach and those with you did not know what a tsunami was and you saw the water rushing away from the shore line would you just leave without warning them. Is their ignorance of a tsunami and what it will do a reason to leave them standing there to find out on their own. Wouldn't it be better to save the few who might listen than let all suffer the ravages of the tsunami.

Mathilda Wrote:Because if we don't accept your magic book as anything other than a claim without evidence, then why should we listen when it says that we'll go to Hell?

The simplest explanation is that you are indulging in schadenfreude.

 Just because you do not accept what the Bible says doesn't mean it's not true. You are not required to listen, just as the people on the beach are not required to listen to you warn them about an impending doom. Most of them would believe you crazier than a loonytoon, until disaster strikes, then it's to late. So believe what you want, but you can not say you were not warned.

GC

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: You're the one getting emotional and because why, because we express what we know? I have no problem living with telling people about hell, it's the most horrible place anyone could be and I believe it would be dishonest to not warn people.

There is no Hell. There is no evidence of it and no reason to even suggest it even exists. And if it did exist it would violate the laws of thermodynamics. And all you have to say otherwise is a magic book that is a claim and not evidence. So why should I listen to you?

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: If you were standing on the beach and those with you did not know what a tsunami was and you saw the water rushing away from the shore line would you just leave without warning them. Is their ignorance of a tsunami and what it will do a reason to leave them standing there to find out on their own. Wouldn't it be better to save the few who might listen than let all suffer the ravages of the tsunami.

The analogy fails because there is evidence of tsunamis, both geological and recorded on camera. The process is understood as well as the causes of them. Tsunamis are not implausible and do not violate physical laws.

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Just because you do not accept what the Bible says doesn't mean it's not true.

Same goes for the Quran. Or the Norse myths. Or Beowulf or any other ancient religion. But rather than believe in them all, it's better to determine which is more plausible if you're going to base your life on it. Your own magic book is not plausible.

An intelligent being isn't sitting there causing the tsunami, either. Comparing that to active torture is absurd. Tsunamis are an unfortunate result of mindless forces. Eternal torture for noncompliance is entirely unnecessary and avoidable.

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(Quite funny how he likens his master to a mindless destructive force that you need to get as far away from as possible.)

(June 14, 2018 at 3:03 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(June 14, 2018 at 1:29 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're as bad as Mystic and his claims that disbelief is the result of "dark forces."  Anytime you don't have a good answer for something, out come the not so veiled threats of hell.  It's as transparent as it is shameful.

Listen closely because I do not think I will say this again, I'm not threatening anyone, I'm stating what the Bible says, it's not in my ability to put someone in hell so there is no way I can threaten anyone with hell, this is logical yet the so called logical people here can't see it so you all must be poor in your logic. There was nothing veiled about what I said either, it was direct, I do not need to hide behind anything for I have the God of heaven on my side and it would be an injustice to not tell people about an eternal punishment. It bothers you that there is that possibility and you know it, if not you wouldn't get bent out of shape when it's mentioned. There are dark forces at work in this world, forces that you can't control, but they will control you as long as you stay naive.

GC

And yet, oddly enough, you're the one who keeps bringing it up, even when it has no relevance to the discussion at hand.

For what it's worth, I find it both funny and sad that you continually resort to shaking your God stick at the poor pagans every time you're at a loss for a response.

You choose to bring it up, GC, and it's damn hard to excuse when it's so blatantly off-topic as this case was. So, no, you're not fooling anyone.

(June 14, 2018 at 6:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(June 14, 2018 at 3:03 am)Godscreated Wrote: Listen closely because I do not think I will say this again, I'm not threatening anyone, I'm stating what the Bible says, it's not in my ability to put someone in hell so there is no way I can threaten anyone with hell, this is logical yet the so called logical people here can't see it so you all must be poor in your logic. There was nothing veiled about what I said either, it was direct, I do not need to hide behind anything for I have the God of heaven on my side and it would be an injustice to not tell people about an eternal punishment. It bothers you that there is that possibility and you know it, if not you wouldn't get bent out of shape when it's mentioned. There are dark forces at work in this world, forces that you can't control, but they will control you as long as you stay naive.

GC

And yet, oddly enough, you're the one who keeps bringing it up, even when it has no relevance to the discussion at hand.

For what it's worth, I find it both funny and sad that you continually resort to shaking your God stick at the poor pagans every time you're at a loss for a response.

You choose to bring it up, GC, and it's damn hard to excuse when it's so blatantly off-topic as this case was.  So, no, you're not fooling anyone.

 First off who says I did not respond with the correct answer, you lack any understanding of what God is doing so it can't be you and all the other atheist do not believe in a God so they can't. I do what I feel like needs to be said and if you do not like it just quit reading my post, put me on ignore. I've never tried to fool anyone here I say out right what I believe and have always been consistent in what I say. 

GC

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(June 14, 2018 at 4:38 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: You're the one getting emotional and because why, because we express what we know? I have no problem living with telling people about hell, it's the most horrible place anyone could be and I believe it would be dishonest to not warn people.

There is no Hell. There is no evidence of it and no reason to even suggest it even exists. And if it did exist it  would violate the laws of thermodynamics. And all you have to say otherwise is a magic book that is a claim and not evidence. So why should I listen to you?

You sound so sure there is no hell, just how can you possibly know there is no hell. Thermodynamics has nothing to do with hell, thermodynamics is a reality of this universe not hell. God says hell is so separated from everything else that nothing can ever breach the cavern. It will be so far removed no one will even know it exists after the new creation. By the way if the Bible is so magic why is it you have never learned from it, seem to me people would want to learn from a book of magic. 

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: If you were standing on the beach and those with you did not know what a tsunami was and you saw the water rushing away from the shore line would you just leave without warning them. Is their ignorance of a tsunami and what it will do a reason to leave them standing there to find out on their own. Wouldn't it be better to save the few who might listen than let all suffer the ravages of the tsunami.

Mathilda Wrote:The analogy fails because there is evidence of tsunamis, both geological and recorded on camera. The process is understood as well as the causes of them. Tsunamis are not implausible and do not violate physical laws.

Of course they are real, but I was referring to people who did not know they are real. So the analogy is spot on, you just avoid answering the question for what ever reason you sold yourself on and it wasn't a valid reason either because the analogy works quit well. So are you going to answer of pretend the analogy doesn't exist because a Christian presented it. Just how do you think hell violates physical laws, you do not even know what it is nor how it exists.

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Just because you do not accept what the Bible says doesn't mean it's not true.

Mathilda Wrote:Same goes for the Quran. Or the Norse myths. Or Beowulf or any other ancient religion. But rather than believe in them all, it's better to determine which is more plausible if you're going to base your life on it. Your own magic book is not plausible.

 You keep saying the Bible is not plausible, yet you know nothing about it to make such a judgement. Those religions you mentioned are gone with the wind just as all the other ancient religions. You know why I know they mean nothing to you, because they are not a threat to your way of living and you find Christianity threatening to the way you live, so Christianity is something in reality where those others are just blowing in the wind.

GC

(June 15, 2018 at 12:55 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(June 14, 2018 at 4:38 am)Mathilda Wrote: There is no Hell. There is no evidence of it and no reason to even suggest it even exists. And if it did exist it  would violate the laws of thermodynamics. And all you have to say otherwise is a magic book that is a claim and not evidence. So why should I listen to you?

You sound so sure there is no hell, just how can you possibly know there is no hell. Thermodynamics has nothing to do with hell, thermodynamics is a reality of this universe not hell.

Exactly. So hell is not in this universe.

You sound so sure that there is a god, soul and afterlife yet all you have is a magic book that is a claim, not an evidence.

Your beliefs contradict everything that we know about nature. And we do know that we are correct because the modern world would not exist if what we thought we knew was in fact wrong.

(June 15, 2018 at 12:55 am)Godscreated Wrote: By the way if the Bible is so magic why is it you have never learned from it, seem to me people would want to learn from a book of magic. 

Magic doesn't exist. Maybe I should refer to the Bible as a book of fairy tales next time so as not to confuse you.

(June 14, 2018 at 4:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:  You keep saying the Bible is not plausible, yet you know nothing about it to make such a judgement. Those religions you mentioned are gone with the wind just as all the other ancient religions.
You know why I know they mean nothing to you, because they are not a threat to your way of living and you find Christianity threatening to the way you live, so Christianity is something in reality where those others are just blowing in the wind.

You don't know what I know. Don't assume that atheists haven't read your book of fairy tales. Xtianity is another ancient religion that will die out and be gone with the wind. It's not a threat to me because I live in the UK where xtianity is like a fringe hobby that is on the decline.

The only threat comes from Christians. When they do nothing, so does Christianity, Jesus and Yahweh. I'm also lucky enough to live in the UK where overt religious piety is rare and leads to mistrust rather than celebration.

(June 14, 2018 at 4:47 am)robvalue Wrote: An intelligent being isn't sitting there causing the tsunami, either. Comparing that to active torture is absurd. Tsunamis are an unfortunate result of mindless forces. Eternal torture for noncompliance is entirely unnecessary and avoidable.

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(Quite funny how he likens his master to a mindless destructive force that you need to get as far away from as possible.)

Please show me where the Bible uses the word torture concerning God or hell. You should look these things up before making a idiot look smart.

GC

Matthew 18:34
"And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him."