(June 17, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(June 17, 2018 at 4:58 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: One of the things Trump was supposed to be building was a series of concentration camps to hold all apprehended illegal aliens in.  Well, he's caught some illegal aliens and they are in concentration camps.  Why is that a concern?

Well, first of all they are not concentration camps but i'm going to assume you meant detention centers. I never said there was a problem with detention centers, we have already had detention centers, the problem as I and many others have stated is the separating the child from the parents, it isn't necessary you could hold the family together in the detention center, that is what we have done in the past. Presidents in the past have avoided separating the families, specifically for humanitarian reasons, Trump administration have actually made it a matter of policy to separate the families. 

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated.

Well, maybe by separating the apprehended families word will get back to the foreign countries that illegal aliens will no longer be treated with kid gloves.  That might reduce the influx.  Of course the flip side is that no Americans should take their kids to such foreign countries because they might be kidnapped in retaliation.  This story probably won't have a happy ending anytime soon.

Wizard already addressed this

(June 17, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well, first of all they are not concentration camps but i'm going to assume you meant detention centers. I never said there was a problem with detention centers, we have already had detention centers, the problem as I and many others have stated is the separating the child from the parents, it isn't necessary you could hold the family together in the detention center, that is what we have done in the past. Presidents in the past have avoided separating the families, specifically for humanitarian reasons, Trump administration have actually made it a matter of policy to separate the families. 

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated.

Well, maybe by separating the apprehended families word will get back to the foreign countries that illegal aliens will no longer be treated with kid gloves.  That might reduce the influx.  Of course the flip side is that no Americans should take their kids to such foreign countries because they might be kidnapped in retaliation.  This story probably won't have a happy ending anytime soon.

The point is we shouldn't stoop to these types of tactics, we could chop their legs off too, that would get the message across. Why the hell would anyone condone such type of behavior?

(June 17, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well, first of all they are not concentration camps but i'm going to assume you meant detention centers. I never said there was a problem with detention centers, we have already had detention centers, the problem as I and many others have stated is the separating the child from the parents, it isn't necessary you could hold the family together in the detention center, that is what we have done in the past. Presidents in the past have avoided separating the families, specifically for humanitarian reasons, Trump administration have actually made it a matter of policy to separate the families. 

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated.

Well, maybe by separating the apprehended families word will get back to the foreign countries that illegal aliens will no longer be treated with kid gloves.  That might reduce the influx.  Of course the flip side is that no Americans should take their kids to such foreign countries because they might be kidnapped in retaliation.  This story probably won't have a happy ending anytime soon.

So it’s okay to emotionally and psychologically traumatize babies and children as a means of teaching their parents and distant family members a lesson about our stance on illegal immigration?  That’s just bald faced cruelty.

Quote:Well, maybe by separating the apprehended families word will get back to the foreign countries that illegal aliens will no longer be treated with kid gloves.

Never going to happen they will come no matter the risk .And it's a bullshit tactic only scum would employ .

Quote:  That might reduce the influx.  

Never going to happen they will come no matter the risk

Quote:Of course the flip side is that no Americans should take their kids to such foreign countries because they might be kidnapped in retaliation.  

What kind of world do you live in?

Quote:This story probably won't have a happy ending anytime soon.

You a cynical fuck aren't you ?

(June 17, 2018 at 8:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 17, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Well, maybe by separating the apprehended families word will get back to the foreign countries that illegal aliens will no longer be treated with kid gloves.  That might reduce the influx.  Of course the flip side is that no Americans should take their kids to such foreign countries because they might be kidnapped in retaliation.  This story probably won't have a happy ending anytime soon.

So it’s okay to emotionally and psychologically traumatize babies and children as a means of teaching their parents and distant family members a lesson about our stance on illegal immigration?  That’s just bald faced cruelty.

Hell, we don't give a shit about our own natural citizen kids.  Why should we give a damn about foreigners?  The best thing we could do would be to invade their countries, kill their worthless leaders, and put them all under American control.  That way they can stay in their own countries and enjoy the benefit of living under the American system.

Hey undocumented immigrants, it’s all your fault
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06...story.html

(June 18, 2018 at 4:52 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2018 at 8:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So it’s okay to emotionally and psychologically traumatize babies and children as a means of teaching their parents and distant family members a lesson about our stance on illegal immigration?  That’s just bald faced cruelty.

Hell, we don't give a shit about our own natural citizen kids.  Why should we give a damn about foreigners?  The best thing we could do would be to invade their countries, kill their worthless leaders, and put them all under American control.  That way they can stay in their own countries and enjoy the benefit of living under the American system.

Hey undocumented immigrants, it’s all your fault
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06...story.html

Imperialism as a solution to illegal immigration.

You have no idea how fucking stupid you sound, do you?

You know, in 2016 if you had told me "Donald Trump will lock immigrant children in cages and separate them from their family" I think I'd have given him a little too much credit and said "Okay, he's terrible. But I doubt he'd go that far. Would he? Even if he would the REpublican party wouldn't stand for it... right? RIGHT?"

Apparently past me was naive. But not naive enough to have voted for someone other than Hillary Clinton.

(June 18, 2018 at 7:10 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(June 18, 2018 at 4:52 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Hell, we don't give a shit about our own natural citizen kids.  Why should we give a damn about foreigners?  The best thing we could do would be to invade their countries, kill their worthless leaders, and put them all under American control.  That way they can stay in their own countries and enjoy the benefit of living under the American system.

Hey undocumented immigrants, it’s all your fault
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06...story.html

Imperialism as a solution to illegal immigration.

You have no idea how fucking stupid you sound, do you?

It's obvious that you ideas aren't worth a damn because if they were then the problem wouldn't exist.