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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 9:52 am
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(June 22, 2018 at 9:00 am)Brian37 Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 8:56 am)A Theist Wrote: Yes. Very disgusting....and also to add, that any credible argument which could be made by one side of an issue or another can be totally obscured behind one senless comment from one wreckless dumbshit....and to either dismiss the comment or to excuse it only makes those on that side of the issue look just as bad as the person who made it. It won't be the argument that the people they're trying to persuade will see, it will be an image of hatefulness and intolerance they see. So much for the credible argument.
No, not the same thing. The President is acting like a despot and should be met with the strongest condemnation.
By saying his son should get molested by a pedophile? Seriously? This is where we are at now? It should be obvious to any decent human that that is an indefensible thing to say. Full stop.
Quote: You do not get to equate standing up to a bully with blasphemy as being a bully equal to the bully.
Where we get lost is in this constant comparing back and forth. Whether or not saying Barron should get molested is better, worse, or equal to Trump’s border separations is irrelevant to the point that it’s a horrible thing to say.
(June 22, 2018 at 9:11 am)Brian37 Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 9:07 am)A Theist Wrote: Thank you for proving my argument. Perfect example.
Bullshit!
You are fucking tone deaf. He is not the victim, you are not the victim. I doubt you even fucking know what a real victim is.
How about Barron? Did we forget about him?
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:11 am
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Speaking as an outsider leftist I think what he said is plain wrong. Granted, there are examples of the right wing doing it, does it makes it less abhorrent of a stance?
But then, I am in Portugal and politicians never resort to this kind of rethoric. Its sad.
If the leftwing on the US wants people to vote for them (lol dems are right wing by our standards), they should stop and think why resorting to the same tactics just makes them equal to right wingers. Hate rethoric only alienates.
Carry on.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:13 am
(June 22, 2018 at 2:22 am)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: First off I'm not a Republican, I'm a registered Independent. I was a couple of months shy of being 18 to vote in 2008, but was a strong supporter of Obama. In 2012 I voted for Obama. In this past election I would have voted for Bernie Sanders had the DNC not royally fucked him. I voted down ticket this past election, because I didn't like either candidate. Thanks for baselessly calling me a racist and classless by the way, just another reason why over the past few years I've started distancing myself with left leaning political ideology.
I'm not just saying that the vitriol on the left is pushing away centrist voters because I'm a conservative, I'm saying it because I AM a centrist that IS being pushed away by the vitriol from the by the left. I'm not sure if you've ever heard the term Uncanny Valley? but it describes a sort of revulsion that people feel when something looks human but isn't quite human. I've had similar feelings towards all of the hatred directed from every corner of the media that it just sets off alarm bells in my head that it's not genuine. When I see almost every single mainstream news outlet scream about something trump did, no matter how insignificant, it gives credibility to his claims of fake news.
I'm just saying, things need to calm down on the left because if they don't they are going to continue to lose control of political power and alienate the majority of voters.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:17 am
(June 21, 2018 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: Off the hinge leftist, Peter Fonda, makes Vulgar Tweet suggesting that Barron Trump be ripped from his mother's arms and be locked in a cage with a pedophile. Fonda is to be appearing in a movie and Sony is standing behind him despite his vile tweet, citing he apologized. So did Roseanne Barr. Okay, ABC. Time to bring Roseanne back.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=56058267
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peter-...ron-trump/
Who is Peter Fonda?
Well at least the only people suggesting ripping babies away from parents are in no way in charge of your country.
Because that would be monstrous, someone suggesting that who has actual power would be terrible wouldn't it!
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:23 am
(June 22, 2018 at 9:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 9:00 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, not the same thing. The President is acting like a despot and should be met with the strongest condemnation.
By saying his son should get molested by a pedophile? Seriously? This is where we are at now? It should be obvious to any decent human that that is an indefensible thing to say. Full stop.
Quote: You do not get to equate standing up to a bully with blasphemy as being a bully equal to the bully.
Where we get lost is in this constant comparing back and forth. Whether or not saying Barron should get molested is better, worse, or equal to Trump’s border separations is irrelevant to the point that it’s a horrible thing to say.
(June 22, 2018 at 9:11 am)Brian37 Wrote: Bullshit!
You are fucking tone deaf. He is not the victim, you are not the victim. I doubt you even fucking know what a real victim is.
How about Barron? Did we forget about him?
He has plenty of secret service protecting him, I am quite sure he is safe.
At best you can call Fonda's comments in poor taste, but you CANNOT treat his "How would you like it if someone kidnapped your kid" intent as being the same as THE ACTUAL REAL ACTIONS of Trump.
THE TWO ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME......
Trump has money, and power and security, poor people escaping crime and poverty and war DO NOT have the same benefit. Trump has been bullying people who do not have the power or money to defend themselves.
Stop staring at my finger when I am pointing to the orange moon.
Trump is a vile disgusting human. He is taking our country politically down a very dark road, one that if other politicians see his formula as a winning tactic, will lead to even worse.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:24 am
(June 21, 2018 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: Off the hinge leftist, Peter Fonda, makes Vulgar Tweet suggesting that Barron Trump be ripped from his mother's arms and be locked in a cage with a pedophile. Fonda is to be appearing in a movie and Sony is standing behind him despite his vile tweet, citing he apologized. So did Roseanne Barr. Okay, ABC. Time to bring Roseanne back.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=56058267
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peter-...ron-trump/
If you can't see the difference in the two scenarios, I feel sorry for you. What Fonda said isn't racist. At worst it was bad taste.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:29 am
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I think theres an amusing dynamic at play when people horrified by abhorrent policies and actual events are held to task over a moral highground in making a dead on comparison. It allows the vermin rooting for concentration camps to do what they do because its just what they do.... and gives those vermin allies in browbeating people who are disgusted beyond the point of politeness.
It;s a great way for a minority to overcome the majority..split it;s ideological enemies up into bickering factions.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:34 am
Oh no, Peter Fonda said he hopes something nasty happens to Barron Trump. How awful. The Billionaire's son who has a secret service detail no doubt has it harder than the children who've been separated from their families and locked in cages.
Give me a fucking break. Yeah, he should have left out the 'pedophile' part, but other than that there's zero wrong with his statement. Anyone who thinks otherwise can go fuck a kite. No, you didn't mishear me. I said go fuck a kite, not fly one.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:38 am
(June 22, 2018 at 11:24 am)polymath257 Wrote: (June 21, 2018 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: Off the hinge leftist, Peter Fonda, makes Vulgar Tweet suggesting that Barron Trump be ripped from his mother's arms and be locked in a cage with a pedophile. Fonda is to be appearing in a movie and Sony is standing behind him despite his vile tweet, citing he apologized. So did Roseanne Barr. Okay, ABC. Time to bring Roseanne back.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=56058267
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peter-...ron-trump/
If you can't see the difference in the two scenarios, I feel sorry for you. What Fonda said isn't racist. At worst it was bad taste.
I do not consider it so. The effects of pedophilia on a child are as abhorrent as racial phobias.
I know it is a cliche, but hatred begets more hatred. I have learned this anecdotally.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 11:40 am
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While that may be true..the type of hatred we;re dealing with in the us needs no prodding or begotting. It flows from an endless font.
I;m going to continue hating hateful people, and speaking to them in the only language they understand.
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