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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:53 am
(June 24, 2018 at 8:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 24, 2018 at 8:21 pm)Joods Wrote: See, CDF keeps on using the word "everything" as if he actually knows the meaning of it.
Everything meaning everything. Not sure I could be more clear then when I use that term.
Let's see how many times you were incorrect in your use of the word "everything".
Post 215
Quote:Atheist claim there was nothing which created everything.
You were already corrected on this by LFC and others. Atheists make no such claim. Your use of the word "everything" is incorrect.
Score one point for being wrong.
Post 245
Quote:Based on Hawkings' calculations space was infinitely curved so there was no space; hence, no matter or energy. Everything, literally came from nothing.
As was pointed out to you by Minimalist, Hawking wasn't that convincing, even to his own colleagues. Your use of the word "everything", is incorrect.
Score another point for being wrong.
Post 456
You were asked by Sal to answer four questions, one of which was the following: bold mine.
Sal Wrote:Explain to me how an omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent god is able to make a decision when it knows what is gonna decide beforehand because it knows everything, including its own decisions.
You answered with this:
Quote:1 - 4: It is His will
Your answer was not complete, nor was it truthful because you presume to know these things about your god. Logically, since you were not present for any of these things that supposedly happened, you cannot say with any degree of certainty that "everything" is indeed His will.
Score your third point for being wrong.
Post 1156
CDF47 Wrote:Mathilda Wrote: Wrote:(05-11-2018 at 07:44 AM)CDF47 Wrote: Wrote:BS argument = nothing created everything (just natural processes) - yeah right
Everything came from energy, including matter. Of course you'd know if this if you actually listened to what people were telling you rather than ignoring them and spamming. Like the paper I gave you #801
You were told this before. Your statement that nothing created everything was already countered here in #208 but of course you ignored it.
I saw it both times. I read every post but did not have time to respond to all.
According to Hawking's calculations, space had infinite curvature at the beginning of time which means there was no space or time. That means there was no matter. Call it a singularity or whatever you want but everything came for a Creator at creation. bold mine.
You have yet to prove this. You have also contradicted yourself on what everything actually means, but we'll get to that shortly. In the meantime, you are incorrect a fourth time.
Post 1184
Quote:I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.
The question you have continually dodged is If everything came from nothing as you say, where did the creator come from? Surely, according to the term "everything" that would include him. So, smart man, just exactly where did the creator come from?
Post 1215
Quote:It is so nice to know that only 3 percent of Americans fall for this atheism belief. The belief that everything comes from nothing (no Creator) which is obviously impossible.
Again, you intentionally misrepresent atheism with your use of the word "everything".
Post 1489
Quote:Regardless, it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist and to believe everything comes from undirected blind and dumb processes.
Man, no matter how many times you are told you are wrong about atheism, you just cannot let this one go.
Post 1577
Quote:Everything in the universe is designed by the Creator because the Big Bang and the fine-tuning of the universe shows us the entire universe is designed.
I'll ask again, the term "everything", encompasses ALL. Where did the creator come from?
Post 1832
Quote:My point was from the best we know the universe came from nothing and now we have everything we see. That was my point. I will stop using it in that way.
First you accuse atheists of saying that the universe came from nothing and now YOU'RE saying the universe came from nothing. Are you even paying attention here?
Post 1963
Quote:I have been correct about nearly everything. Name each individual error I made. I can't think of any aside from maybe the end of Expelled is a hack job and the flagellum motor irreducible complexity.
There are numerous posts throughout this entire thread that prove you've been wrong. See every single post of yours within this post for examples. You are the most disingenuous person I have ever met. Well, there is one other, but that's irrelevant.
Post 2165
Quote:The entire universe and everything in it is designed by a mind.
Who created such a mind? Quit dodging this very important question!
Post 2226
CDF47 Wrote:Mathilda Wrote: Wrote:If your god gave free will to Adam and Eve and consequently to all humans, then how come you think that everything in the world is designed by him?
Because the Scriptures say so.
Sorry, but no. Just because you believe it to be true, doesn't actually make it true.
Post 2256
Quote:Everything is under His providence and He allows humans to do certain things, like design, that is correct and that is what I have been saying all along. I never contradicted that as I have held these beliefs for a very long time.
Actually, this is the first time you mentioned it. Until now, you have argued that a creator made and designed everything in the universe. Now you say that he "allows" humans to do certain things. Really, this moving the goal posts to suit your agenda is old. You need a better shtick. You can't prove that anything is under your god. I know for a fact that I do what I want. Your god has nothing to do with the decisions I make or the things I do.
I'm going to stop here, even though there are three more pages of your drivel I can pull instances from where you have misused the word "everything".
Not that I care, but I suppose you'll refute the points I have made, even though it's right there in black and white for everyone to see. Keep on doing you. I think this chapter needs to be closed because you won't see where you are wrong and you'll just keep on changing the goal to suit your agenda. And that's sad because the human mind has such a great potential to be accepting and open to be educated in that which it does not know. Unfortunately, your mind has been closed since your indoctrination to a religion that has held science back for hundreds of years.
13 times you were incorrect about the usage of the word "everything".
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:55 am
(June 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I sense the ban hammer coming soon...
(June 24, 2018 at 10:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, it doesn't.
Why doesn’t it? Explain your answer. I don't think he can his only options are
1. Saying the fallacy is fine as it stops an infinite regress
2.The god must be fundamental(ontological argument )
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 11:20 am
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2018 at 11:29 am by CDF47.)
(June 25, 2018 at 12:07 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 10:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: >>No<<, it doesn't.
!Fact! Mosquitoes are attracted to the color blue twice as much as any other color.
Incredible
(June 25, 2018 at 12:53 am)Joods Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 8:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
Everything meaning everything. Not sure I could be more clear then when I use that term.
Let's see how many times you were incorrect in your use of the word "everything".
Post 215
Quote:Atheist claim there was nothing which created everything.
You were already corrected on this by LFC and others. Atheists make no such claim. Your use of the word "everything" is incorrect.
Score one point for being wrong.
Post 245
Quote:Based on Hawkings' calculations space was infinitely curved so there was no space; hence, no matter or energy. Everything, literally came from nothing.
As was pointed out to you by Minimalist, Hawking wasn't that convincing, even to his own colleagues. Your use of the word "everything", is incorrect.
Score another point for being wrong.
Post 456
You were asked by Sal to answer four questions, one of which was the following: bold mine.
Sal Wrote:Explain to me how an omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent god is able to make a decision when it knows what is gonna decide beforehand because it knows everything, including its own decisions.
You answered with this:
Quote:1 - 4: It is His will
Your answer was not complete, nor was it truthful because you presume to know these things about your god. Logically, since you were not present for any of these things that supposedly happened, you cannot say with any degree of certainty that "everything" is indeed His will.
Score your third point for being wrong.
Post 1156
CDF47 Wrote:I saw it both times. I read every post but did not have time to respond to all.
According to Hawking's calculations, space had infinite curvature at the beginning of time which means there was no space or time. That means there was no matter. Call it a singularity or whatever you want but everything came for a Creator at creation. bold mine.
You have yet to prove this. You have also contradicted yourself on what everything actually means, but we'll get to that shortly. In the meantime, you are incorrect a fourth time.
Post 1184
Quote:I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.
The question you have continually dodged is If everything came from nothing as you say, where did the creator come from? Surely, according to the term "everything" that would include him. So, smart man, just exactly where did the creator come from?
Post 1215
Quote:It is so nice to know that only 3 percent of Americans fall for this atheism belief. The belief that everything comes from nothing (no Creator) which is obviously impossible.
Again, you intentionally misrepresent atheism with your use of the word "everything".
Post 1489
Quote:Regardless, it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist and to believe everything comes from undirected blind and dumb processes.
Man, no matter how many times you are told you are wrong about atheism, you just cannot let this one go.
Post 1577
Quote:Everything in the universe is designed by the Creator because the Big Bang and the fine-tuning of the universe shows us the entire universe is designed.
I'll ask again, the term "everything", encompasses ALL. Where did the creator come from?
Post 1832
Quote:My point was from the best we know the universe came from nothing and now we have everything we see. That was my point. I will stop using it in that way.
First you accuse atheists of saying that the universe came from nothing and now YOU'RE saying the universe came from nothing. Are you even paying attention here?
Post 1963
Quote:I have been correct about nearly everything. Name each individual error I made. I can't think of any aside from maybe the end of Expelled is a hack job and the flagellum motor irreducible complexity.
There are numerous posts throughout this entire thread that prove you've been wrong. See every single post of yours within this post for examples. You are the most disingenuous person I have ever met. Well, there is one other, but that's irrelevant.
Post 2165
Quote:The entire universe and everything in it is designed by a mind.
Who created such a mind? Quit dodging this very important question!
Post 2226
CDF47 Wrote:Because the Scriptures say so.
Sorry, but no. Just because you believe it to be true, doesn't actually make it true.
Post 2256
Quote:Everything is under His providence and He allows humans to do certain things, like design, that is correct and that is what I have been saying all along. I never contradicted that as I have held these beliefs for a very long time.
Actually, this is the first time you mentioned it. Until now, you have argued that a creator made and designed everything in the universe. Now you say that he "allows" humans to do certain things. Really, this moving the goal posts to suit your agenda is old. You need a better shtick. You can't prove that anything is under your god. I know for a fact that I do what I want. Your god has nothing to do with the decisions I make or the things I do.
I'm going to stop here, even though there are three more pages of your drivel I can pull instances from where you have misused the word "everything".
Not that I care, but I suppose you'll refute the points I have made, even though it's right there in black and white for everyone to see. Keep on doing you. I think this chapter needs to be closed because you won't see where you are wrong and you'll just keep on changing the goal to suit your agenda. And that's sad because the human mind has such a great potential to be accepting and open to be educated in that which it does not know. Unfortunately, your mind has been closed since your indoctrination to a religion that has held science back for hundreds of years.
13 times you were incorrect about the usage of the word "everything".
When I use the word everything I am usually speaking of everything contained in the universe including the universe itself.
Also, I believe God is the primordial mind behind all of creation. He has no creator. He is infinite in His years.
(June 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I sense the ban hammer coming soon...
(June 24, 2018 at 10:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, it doesn't.
Why doesn’t it? Explain your answer.
Ban hammer for what?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2018 at 12:45 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(June 25, 2018 at 11:20 am)CDF47 Wrote: (June 25, 2018 at 12:07 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: !Fact! Mosquitoes are attracted to the color blue twice as much as any other color.
Incredible
(June 25, 2018 at 12:53 am)Joods Wrote: Let's see how many times you were incorrect in your use of the word "everything".
Post 215
You were already corrected on this by LFC and others. Atheists make no such claim. Your use of the word "everything" is incorrect.
Score one point for being wrong.
Post 245
As was pointed out to you by Minimalist, Hawking wasn't that convincing, even to his own colleagues. Your use of the word "everything", is incorrect.
Score another point for being wrong.
Post 456
You were asked by Sal to answer four questions, one of which was the following: bold mine.
You answered with this:
Your answer was not complete, nor was it truthful because you presume to know these things about your god. Logically, since you were not present for any of these things that supposedly happened, you cannot say with any degree of certainty that "everything" is indeed His will.
Score your third point for being wrong.
Post 1156
bold mine.
You have yet to prove this. You have also contradicted yourself on what everything actually means, but we'll get to that shortly. In the meantime, you are incorrect a fourth time.
Post 1184
The question you have continually dodged is If everything came from nothing as you say, where did the creator come from? Surely, according to the term "everything" that would include him. So, smart man, just exactly where did the creator come from?
Post 1215
Again, you intentionally misrepresent atheism with your use of the word "everything".
Post 1489
Man, no matter how many times you are told you are wrong about atheism, you just cannot let this one go.
Post 1577
I'll ask again, the term "everything", encompasses ALL. Where did the creator come from?
Post 1832
First you accuse atheists of saying that the universe came from nothing and now YOU'RE saying the universe came from nothing. Are you even paying attention here?
Post 1963
There are numerous posts throughout this entire thread that prove you've been wrong. See every single post of yours within this post for examples. You are the most disingenuous person I have ever met. Well, there is one other, but that's irrelevant.
Post 2165
Who created such a mind? Quit dodging this very important question!
Post 2226
Sorry, but no. Just because you believe it to be true, doesn't actually make it true.
Post 2256
Actually, this is the first time you mentioned it. Until now, you have argued that a creator made and designed everything in the universe. Now you say that he "allows" humans to do certain things. Really, this moving the goal posts to suit your agenda is old. You need a better shtick. You can't prove that anything is under your god. I know for a fact that I do what I want. Your god has nothing to do with the decisions I make or the things I do.
I'm going to stop here, even though there are three more pages of your drivel I can pull instances from where you have misused the word "everything".
Not that I care, but I suppose you'll refute the points I have made, even though it's right there in black and white for everyone to see. Keep on doing you. I think this chapter needs to be closed because you won't see where you are wrong and you'll just keep on changing the goal to suit your agenda. And that's sad because the human mind has such a great potential to be accepting and open to be educated in that which it does not know. Unfortunately, your mind has been closed since your indoctrination to a religion that has held science back for hundreds of years.
13 times you were incorrect about the usage of the word "everything".
When I use the word everything I am usually speaking of everything contained in the universe including the universe itself.
Also, I believe God is the primordial mind behind all of creation. He has no creator. He is infinite in His years.
(June 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I sense the ban hammer coming soon...
Why doesn’t it? Explain your answer.
Ban hammer for what?
Explain why you are not engaging in special pleading. You said you looked up the fallacy up you are not committing it.
Explain your answer or I will be convinced that you are not here for genuine discussion, and I’ll report you for trolling.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:35 pm
(June 25, 2018 at 11:20 am)CDF47 Wrote: (June 25, 2018 at 12:07 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: !Fact! Mosquitoes are attracted to the color blue twice as much as any other color.
Incredible
(June 25, 2018 at 12:53 am)Joods Wrote: Let's see how many times you were incorrect in your use of the word "everything".
Post 215
You were already corrected on this by LFC and others. Atheists make no such claim. Your use of the word "everything" is incorrect.
Score one point for being wrong.
Post 245
As was pointed out to you by Minimalist, Hawking wasn't that convincing, even to his own colleagues. Your use of the word "everything", is incorrect.
Score another point for being wrong.
Post 456
You were asked by Sal to answer four questions, one of which was the following: bold mine.
You answered with this:
Your answer was not complete, nor was it truthful because you presume to know these things about your god. Logically, since you were not present for any of these things that supposedly happened, you cannot say with any degree of certainty that "everything" is indeed His will.
Score your third point for being wrong.
Post 1156
bold mine.
You have yet to prove this. You have also contradicted yourself on what everything actually means, but we'll get to that shortly. In the meantime, you are incorrect a fourth time.
Post 1184
The question you have continually dodged is If everything came from nothing as you say, where did the creator come from? Surely, according to the term "everything" that would include him. So, smart man, just exactly where did the creator come from?
Post 1215
Again, you intentionally misrepresent atheism with your use of the word "everything".
Post 1489
Man, no matter how many times you are told you are wrong about atheism, you just cannot let this one go.
Post 1577
I'll ask again, the term "everything", encompasses ALL. Where did the creator come from?
Post 1832
First you accuse atheists of saying that the universe came from nothing and now YOU'RE saying the universe came from nothing. Are you even paying attention here?
Post 1963
There are numerous posts throughout this entire thread that prove you've been wrong. See every single post of yours within this post for examples. You are the most disingenuous person I have ever met. Well, there is one other, but that's irrelevant.
Post 2165
Who created such a mind? Quit dodging this very important question!
Post 2226
Sorry, but no. Just because you believe it to be true, doesn't actually make it true.
Post 2256
Actually, this is the first time you mentioned it. Until now, you have argued that a creator made and designed everything in the universe. Now you say that he "allows" humans to do certain things. Really, this moving the goal posts to suit your agenda is old. You need a better shtick. You can't prove that anything is under your god. I know for a fact that I do what I want. Your god has nothing to do with the decisions I make or the things I do.
I'm going to stop here, even though there are three more pages of your drivel I can pull instances from where you have misused the word "everything".
Not that I care, but I suppose you'll refute the points I have made, even though it's right there in black and white for everyone to see. Keep on doing you. I think this chapter needs to be closed because you won't see where you are wrong and you'll just keep on changing the goal to suit your agenda. And that's sad because the human mind has such a great potential to be accepting and open to be educated in that which it does not know. Unfortunately, your mind has been closed since your indoctrination to a religion that has held science back for hundreds of years.
13 times you were incorrect about the usage of the word "everything".
When I use the word everything I am usually speaking of everything contained in the universe including the universe itself.
Also, I believe God is the primordial mind behind all of creation. He has no creator. He is infinite in His years.
(June 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I sense the ban hammer coming soon...
Why doesn’t it? Explain your answer.
Ban hammer for what?
Ban hammer for a head as dense as an anvil.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:41 pm
Really - now he's just being a fucking asshole.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:43 pm
(June 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 25, 2018 at 11:20 am)CDF47 Wrote: Incredible
When I use the word everything I am usually speaking of everything contained in the universe including the universe itself.
Also, I believe God is the primordial mind behind all of creation. He has no creator. He is infinite in His years.
Ban hammer for what?
Explain why you are not engaging in special pleading.
I'm not. There is only so much I can answer and discuss on here.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 12:47 pm
(June 25, 2018 at 12:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (June 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Explain why you are not engaging in special pleading.
I'm not. There is only so much I can answer and discuss on here.
LOL. I’m reporting you.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 1:51 pm
(June 24, 2018 at 7:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 7:25 pm)Wololo Wrote: It's even more brainbendingly stupid than that. It goes "everything needs a creator, therefore god". "Then, what created god?" "Um... Ah... Errr... God wasn't created". "But you said everything needs a creator, if god exists then he must be included in the set of everything". "Oh well you see god doesn't need a creator because... Look over there, it's a flying pig!" <runs away making wooob wooob wooob noises>
God is the primordial intelligence who created all things. Everything leads back to this intelligent mind.
If everything needs a creator, as the KCA asserts, then the question "what created god?" requires an answer describing the meta-creator, and the it's creator and that being's creator and so on in infinite regression.
It is the only possible answer to the KCA, turtles all the way down.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 25, 2018 at 2:30 pm
Right, otherwise it's just saying some things require a creator.
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