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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 4:21 pm
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(July 4, 2018 at 3:19 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (July 4, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Wololo Wrote: I love how Tim O'hÓinseach talks about one of the most studies areas of the period of which we have the most complete record, and most extensive collection of second and third hand sources in the Roman empire as if there was nobody taking notes, and therefore we have to accept the bible is true in all it's assertions.
And yet he still wants us to believe he's an atheist. "I'm not religious, but christianity, it's the best!", eh Tim lad?
Apparently ones atheism is in question if one doesn’t support the party line. It’s not eneough to disagree with his statements or present facts and evidence against it.
This has nothing to do with Christianity, so much for atheism just meaning off! Lol nope were denouncing a hack and a liar and he does not present shit and has been chewed out by everyone from Robert Price to Jack C Williams. You just sticking up for him because he disagrees with us . And one does not need to be motivated by Christianity to lie for it .
Because the person matters Tims a fucking liar he been shown by Mythicist's to be a a liar .That says it all really .
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 4:30 pm
(July 4, 2018 at 4:11 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: His motives are of no importance as well. If you wish to question something presented, that’s fine. But trying to attack the person, on things that where not being discussed; just makes you look desparet IMHO
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Question for you -- "Why did no one who was alive during the time of Jesus mention him by name?"
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 4:38 pm
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 4:41 pm
Ok, so, to help bring things back on track, are there any athiest scholars that espouse the view that the "Jesus brother of James" passage is genuine?
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 4:48 pm
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 4:59 pm
(July 4, 2018 at 4:30 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (July 4, 2018 at 4:11 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: His motives are of no importance as well. If you wish to question something presented, that’s fine. But trying to attack the person, on things that where not being discussed; just makes you look desparet IMHO
RR,
Question for you -- "Why did no one who was alive during the time of Jesus mention him by name?"
Do you mean other than those who do?
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 5:05 pm
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(July 4, 2018 at 4:41 pm)JairCrawford Wrote: Ok, so, to help bring things back on track, are there any athiest scholars that espouse the view that the "Jesus brother of James" passage is genuine?
I've no idea who or what an 'athiest' is.
Do you mean 'atheist scholars'? What does your own research tell you?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 5:08 pm
Quote:Do you mean other than those who do?
You mean those people who don't exist
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 5:15 pm
(July 4, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Wololo Wrote: I love how Tim O'hÓinseach talks about one of the most studies areas of the period of which we have the most complete record, and most extensive collection of second and third hand sources in the Roman empire as if there was nobody taking notes, and therefore we have to accept the bible is true in all it's assertions.
Actually, he does respond to that argument, so, taken in context, your complaint doesn't have much merit.
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RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 4, 2018 at 5:26 pm
(July 4, 2018 at 5:15 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (July 4, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Wololo Wrote: I love how Tim O'hÓinseach talks about one of the most studies areas of the period of which we have the most complete record, and most extensive collection of second and third hand sources in the Roman empire as if there was nobody taking notes, and therefore we have to accept the bible is true in all it's assertions.
Actually, he does respond to that argument, so, taken in context, your complaint doesn't have much merit. He does a poor job of it .
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