Who is trump taking a massive dump on? His allies. Who is trump cosying up to? Communist dictatorships.

America has been sucker punched and doesn't yet know it.

It's a slow motion train wreck and you want to take everyone else with you.

(July 30, 2018 at 11:24 am)Cecelia Wrote:

(July 30, 2018 at 11:18 am)Libertarian God Wrote: You sound crazy. I'm done here.

I'm not the one that wants to privatize education.   You're the one who wants a small government, with little to no regulations where they do nothing but spend money on the military.  (Apparently we don't need a well educated military.  Just ones that know how to pull the trigger)

When you privatize education, you get for-profit schools.  That's exactly what we have now at the college level.  Libertarians LOVE preaching how they want to privatize everything.  I wonder how many of them are happy using public roads, going to public universities, and enjoying other benefits of bigger government than they want, while wanting to take away those benefits from others?

Not everyone can afford some big fancy private school.  So, law of the market demands that new schools pop up.  And we've already seen how Charter Schools do (hint: many of them are failing at an astounding rate).  And we already see how for-profit schools work at the university level.  Yet they're still successful.

So I wonder why Libertarians, who want others to have to send their kids to for-profit schools decide to choose school that aren't for-profit for themselves.

Privatized education has already failed and public education can be done right

(July 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(July 29, 2018 at 11:32 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: That doesn't actually exonerate the cult of Trump and cult followers like yourself, but thanks for trying.  Better luck next time.

I'm not a Trump follower. I voted for Gary Johnson and will vote Democrat next election unless the run a military hawk, ala Clinton. I just don't participate in the game where you try to say the most outrageous thin possible about the opposition.

If you think Trump's followers can in anyway be compared to Jim Jones, much less are 'very similar' you need to present evidence, the starting point needs to be a base level of knowledge about the Jim Jones cult. Which is obviously lacking, other than just knowing it's bad.

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(July 29, 2018 at 9:58 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Holy shit!  Locked up?  You don’t say..

He kept his followers locked up. You guys seriously don't know anything about the Jones cult. It's a rediculous comparison. Saying something like this I pretty much the same as pizzagate.

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Here is the ultimate irony of it all. Is that for you guys, you either have to agree with all the negative stuff said about Trump, regardless of the rationality of it or even the truth of it, elsewise I'm one of them and all the bad things you are talking about.

That is cult like thinking if there ever was any.

What's ironic is the left getting on this kick that if you don't agree with them you're now a cult follower of Jim Jones. What's really ironic is that the democrat party is beginning to take a sharp turn to the left with the rise of socialist candidates and with the rise of younger college age voters who are sympathetic to the democratic socialists. President Trump is a conservative capitalist. Jim Jones was a leftwing Socialist having more in common with the left and with the democrat socialist party. It's the left leaners who are the sheep and the lemmings that follow every peep and mutter from a Trump hating left wing media to anything else that is "never trumper". Jim Jones was their guy....

https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=64856

(July 30, 2018 at 12:32 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(July 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I'm not a Trump follower. I voted for Gary Johnson and will vote Democrat next election unless the run a military hawk, ala Clinton. I just don't participate in the game where you try to say the most outrageous thin possible about the opposition.

If you think Trump's followers can in anyway be compared to Jim Jones, much less are 'very similar' you need to present evidence, the starting point needs to be a base level of knowledge about the Jim Jones cult. Which is obviously lacking, other than just knowing it's bad.

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He kept his followers locked up. You guys seriously don't know anything about the Jones cult. It's a rediculous comparison. Saying something like this I pretty much the same as pizzagate.

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Here is the ultimate irony of it all. Is that for you guys, you either have to agree with all the negative stuff said about Trump, regardless of the rationality of it or even the truth of it, elsewise I'm one of them and all the bad things you are talking about.

That is cult like thinking if there ever was any.

What's ironic is the left getting on this kick that if you don't agree with them you're now a cult follower of Jim Jones. What's really ironic is that the democrat party is beginning to take a sharp turn to the left with the rise of socialist candidates and with the rise of younger college age voters who are sympathetic to the democratic socialists. President Trump is a conservative capitalist. Jim Jones was a leftwing Socialist having more in common with the left and with the democrat socialist party. It's the left leaners who are the sheep and the lemmings that follow every peep and mutter from a Trump hating left wing media and from anything else that is never trumper. Jim Jones was their guy....

https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=64856

Both think his own Good trumps any greater good,  and subordinates even basic telling of factual reality to whatever appears to be needed at the moment to keep himself in power to suit his own ego and enable his own graft.

You ideological descriptions are just an assiduously generated but laughably transparent smoke screen.

Quote:What's ironic is the left getting on this kick that if you don't agree with them you're now a cult follower of Jim Jones. What's really ironic is that the democrat party is beginning to take a sharp turn to the left with the rise of socialist candidates and with the rise of younger college age voters who are sympathetic to the democratic socialists. President Trump is a conservative capitalist. Jim Jones was a leftwing Socialist having more in common with the left and with the democrat socialist party. It's the left leaners who are the sheep and the lemmings that follow every peep and mutter from a Trump hating left wing media and from anything else that is never trumper. Jim Jones was their guy....

This statement makes zero sense. Nobodies calling Trump a cult leader because he's a Capitalist or a Conservative even if Jones was a hardcore Capitalist and a Conservative  .Their calling him cult leader to his behavior and the behavior of his followers . So bringing up the fact Jones was a Socialist is as much a non point as saying Augusto Pinochet is a cult leader because he was a Capitalist and a Conservative. As for your opinion of the media or Trumps critics it's hardly objective or credible . And again being a Socialist no more makes Jones our guy then being a Capitalist makes  Pinochet your guy . Again no one was talking about their economic beliefs .

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(July 30, 2018 at 12:37 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(July 30, 2018 at 12:32 pm)A Theist Wrote: What's ironic is the left getting on this kick that if you don't agree with them you're now a cult follower of Jim Jones. What's really ironic is that the democrat party is beginning to take a sharp turn to the left with the rise of socialist candidates and with the rise of younger college age voters who are sympathetic to the democratic socialists. President Trump is a conservative capitalist. Jim Jones was a leftwing Socialist having more in common with the left and with the democrat socialist party. It's the left leaners who are the sheep and the lemmings that follow every peep and mutter from a Trump hating left wing media and from anything else that is never trumper. Jim Jones was their guy....

https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=64856

Both think his own Good trumps any greater good,  and subordinates even basic telling of facts reality to whatever appears to be needed at the moment to keep himself in power to suit his own ego and enable his own graft.

You ideological descriptions are just an assiduously generates by laughably transparent smoke screen.

This too

Yeah, I bet Trump got a red wave...

...all over his face.

(July 30, 2018 at 1:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Yeah, I bet Trump got a red wave...

...all over his face.

Red Wings! 

Yellow Wings!

(July 30, 2018 at 11:24 am)Cecelia Wrote: Libertarians LOVE preaching how they want to privatize everything.  I wonder how many of them are happy using public roads, going to public universities, and enjoying other benefits of bigger government than they want, while wanting to take away those benefits from others?

That's the core and sole tenet of libertarianism "fuck you, I got mine!"

(July 30, 2018 at 11:45 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Who is trump taking a massive dump on? His allies. Who is trump cosying up to? Communist dictatorships.

America has been sucker punched and doesn't yet know it.

It's a slow motion train wreck and you want to take everyone else with you.

I wouldn't call either Russia, China or the EU communist.

Russia's government is currently a mix of neo-naziism and the gangster state from TOS' A Piece of the Action. China is a crony capitalist society, capitalist in that there are no rules to stop the owners of capital doing what they want and crony because the capitalists are sons and daughters of major CCP figures. And finally the EU is a group of mostly democratic states who have banded together in the name of peace, economic benefit and, eventually, political unity.

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(July 30, 2018 at 1:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Yeah, I bet Trump got a red wave...

...all over his face.

Milky white maybe, though given Putain's history, quite possibly sickly beige too.

(July 30, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Wololo Wrote: ...

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(July 30, 2018 at 1:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Yeah, I bet Trump got a red wave...

...all over his face.

Milky white maybe, though given Putain's history, quite possibly sickly beige too.

White Wings!

(July 30, 2018 at 2:20 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(July 30, 2018 at 1:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Yeah, I bet Trump got a red wave...

...all over his face.

Red Wings! 

Yellow Wings!

Except for the puffy milk white bags of puss under each eye where tanning cups worn by the tastelessly vain would sit.

Undoubtedly the puss, when squeezed out, would be used to gel his thinning and yet gravity defying combover hair